The four kings are way too hard on NG+

[Trina Man]

as the title states, i'm in NG+, and I'm up to the 4 kings. I remember beating them fairly easily in normal game, but now they are impossible. i have full Havel armour, Gwyn's greatsword +1, and Uchikatana +14, but I barely do ANY damage to them. When i hit them the yellow bar for depleting health doesn't even show up, that's how little damage i'm doing. By the time the second king shows up i've used 15 estus and the first king hasn't even lost 1/8th of his health.

is it meant to be like this? is it a bug? if so, how do i fix it?

[.E..D.]

Wait what? You don't have fully upgraded weapons on NG+? How? I can recommend at least add fire or lightning to your katana, they don't like that type of damage.

[.E..D.]

If you want - i can try to help, but my build is little underpowered to NG+ because it is not fully complete yet(and only one that i have in DSR at a moment)

[Trina Man]

i doubt getting a +15 weapon would help because i'm doing abysmal damage to them as is.
oh and my claymore was +15 before i turned it into gwyn's sword

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

Originally posted by Skeletor:

as the title states, i'm in NG+, and I'm up to the 4 kings. I remember beating them fairly easily in normal game, but now they are impossible. i have full Havel armour, Gwyn's greatsword +1, and Uchikatana +14, but I barely do ANY damage to them. When i hit them the yellow bar for depleting health doesn't even show up, that's how little damage i'm doing. By the time the second king shows up i've used 15 estus and the first king hasn't even lost 1/8th of his health.

is it meant to be like this? is it a bug? if so, how do i fix it?

try uchi +15 and use power within. never been to ng+ but that's how i beat 4 kings in ng and i had to wait for a new king to spawn, that's how fast they died

[Justins1877]

It would help us to determine what the issue is if you posted your stats, can you do that for us?

It sounds like to me you're quite spread out..

[MaximumEffort]

What I always do with 4kings past NG:

NEVER summon for the fight. you'll never have the DPS to overcome one of the kings before another spawns.

equip a claymore or another greatsword of the same weight. at NG+ its at +15 so the DPS is fine.

equip it as two-handed - you wont be blocking anyway, thats just wasting stamina.

equip stamina replenishing gear only. use buffs.

run to the king ASAP and just start wacking away, only stopping once the stamina depletes, using this time to pop an estus.

if you stay close enough, you will actually be hit by the HILT of his sword, not the blade, doing a lot less damage.

then just go crazy.

[NexApex]

Yeah, just battled that boss for about 2 hours. Finally beat it. I agree... this boss was tough as hell.

[SilentKhaos]

Originally posted by NexApex:

Yeah, just battled that boss for about 2 hours. Finally beat it. I agree... this boss was tough as hell.

Correction! Four hours

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

at least +14 weapon and power within. no problemo

[Pnume]

I'm stuck on that NG+ boss at SL1.
The real issue is that it is a DPS race.

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

Originally posted by Pnume:

I'm stuck on that NG+ boss at SL1.
The real issue is that it is a DPS race.

true

[MaximumEffort]

Originally posted by Pnume:

I'm stuck on that NG+ boss at SL1.
The real issue is that it is a DPS race.

thats why its such a unique fight. most other bosses have an exploit or a weakness. with 4Kings you just forget about skill and tactics and just rush in mashing buttons.

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

Originally posted by sjrekis:

Originally posted by Pnume:

I'm stuck on that NG+ boss at SL1.
The real issue is that it is a DPS race.

thats why its such a unique fight. most other bosses have an exploit or a weakness. with 4Kings you just forget about skill and tactics and just rush in mashing buttons.

amazing!

[Dusk of Oolacile]

Bad weapons, bad build. Try Dark Bead into the face. Or a black k***ht weapon if you want melee. The crappy normal weapons that do 10 damage per hit do not cut it for higher NG cycles. They're even crap for NG.

[Pnume]

Originally posted by sjrekis:

Originally posted by Pnume:

I'm stuck on that NG+ boss at SL1.
The real issue is that it is a DPS race.

thats why its such a unique fight. most other bosses have an exploit or a weakness. with 4Kings you just forget about skill and tactics and just rush in mashing buttons.

More like a unique bad design.
DPS race create a gear/level artificial barrier and are a big no-no in game that emphasise skill and not level/gear-based progress.