Is it ever worth it to upgrade a scaling stat past 40?

[Viztep]

Would it be useful to keep scaling a weapon past 40 levels in NG+++ or above? I am doing fine in NG++ but I am wondering if I will need to do more damage in later NG cycles. I use the Grant. If I shouldn't upgrade faith past 40, what should I upgrade? I would assume END and VIT, which is what I have been doing.

[ahaha.wav]

For scaling alone you won't get much use out of it, even if you're going to higher NG+ cycles it's not really worth it for most stats. There are a few exceptions in other areas e.g. dexterity, which I believe gives casting speed bonuses up to the mid-late 40s, and intelligence, which requires investment beyond the soft-cap to meet the casting requirements for certain spells.

[Viztep]

Originally posted by ahaha.wav:

For scaling alone you won't get much use out of it, even if you're going to higher NG+ cycles it's not really worth it for most stats. There are a few exceptions in other areas e.g. dexterity, which I believe gives casting speed bonuses up to the mid-late 40s, and intelligence, which requires investment beyond the soft-cap to meet the casting requirements for certain spells.

so then would equal amounts of endurance and vitality be a good choice, or should I do more of one than the other/only one of them.

[ahaha.wav]

Originally posted by Viztep:

so then would equal amounts of endurance and vitality be a good choice, or should I do more of one than the other/only one of them.

It's really up to you, depends on whether you'd rather have more HP or equip load capacity. NG+ tends to be a little lacking in From games in general, with Dark Souls I tend to find it a lot more enjoyable to start a new game and try a different build rather than continuing to inflate stats into the nth NG+ cycle.

[AspiringAlchemist]

I had a sorcerer with 99 int once, you can melt most things, I'd imagine 99 faith would make Grant and all your miracles obnoxiously strong, but you can't do much co-op in the super high soul levels cause there are fewer people

[Viztep]

Originally posted by AspiringAlchemist:

I had a sorcerer with 99 int once, you can melt most things, I'd imagine 99 faith would make Grant and all your miracles obnoxiously strong, but you can't do much co-op in the super high soul levels cause there are fewer people

Originally posted by ahaha.wav:

Originally posted by Viztep:

so then would equal amounts of endurance and vitality be a good choice, or should I do more of one than the other/only one of them.

It's really up to you, depends on whether you'd rather have more HP or equip load capacity. NG+ tends to be a little lacking in From games in general, with Dark Souls I tend to find it a lot more enjoyable to start a new game and try a different build rather than continuing to inflate stats into the nth NG+ cycle.

I checked a calculator and 99 faith would make my Grant do 760 total damage, as opposed to 726 with 40 faith, which is only about a 5% increase in 59 levels. I think it would be more efficient to go with vitality, and probably some endurance as well in case I need to fastroll.

[nomoreblues]

Originally posted by Viztep:

which is only about a 5% increase in 59 levels.

in general: be careful with your math - in this game you have flat resistances, so anything stacking on top is true damage (while split dmg stuff might dissapoint you)

that said - you're still right about how VIT and END will give you more value beyond 40

[EF_Neo1st]

That is weapon and shield that demand 50 STR . . . but past over it, I dont see much use, it seen like it rises +1 damage each level or every 2 levels.

[Viztep]

Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:

That is weapon and shield that demand 50 STR . . . but past over it, I dont see much use, it seen like it rises +1 damage each level or every 2 levels.

Yeah I have already been using the weapon and have the strength; I was just meaning faith, which has better scaling than strength with the Grand. Should have been more specific.

[Malu]

Vitality to 50
Dex to 45 for max casting speed
Str to 50
Faith to 50 for spells
Int to 50 for spells