is there a way to cheese the beast? (apocalypes bird)

[UnknownPlayer]

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[aidanfilson25]

not really, you just have to go in assuming people are probably going to die and memory repository when you're done if you don't want to lose the employees

[Grim Xzag]

Apocalypse Bird vs Dragon.
Let both Yin and Yang out of their containment room while the Advent has started.
Wait until they merge together to summon big dragon from above. Hope it hits an Egg, instantly killing it, because it reverses HP (Max HP to 0 HP). Clean up the rest.

Optimally, you want to lower the Qliphoth Counters of dangerous 2+ Qliphoth abnormalities such as Blue Star, since the dragon will reverse Qliphoth counters as well (Max to 0, mid to mid, Min to Max, etc.).

This also works with WhiteNights Apostles, allowing them to be permanently defeated.

[Hollow Heart]

I dunno about cheese but here are some tips.
Go first for the egg that disables pause.
Send all employees who don't suppress the egg to an elevator.
Pay attention to two locations: the room with the egg you are suppressing to get the agents out of there if the Bird decides to teleport there; and to the location of the Bird to get charmed agents out of harm's way.
If you have abnotmalities that escape when an ammount of clerks is killed, then try to kill off clerks with execution bullets before summoning Apocalypse Bird.

[UnknownPlayer]

which egg was it

[Hollow Heart]

It's named 'Long Arms'. An egg in the image of the Judgement Bird (covered in bandages).

Sorry for a kind of late reply, hope it's still relevant.

[Tardivex]

To add to Hollow Heart's tips, I recommend leaving a few employees in corridors throughout the various departments to deal with any qliphoth meltdowns triggered by him, everyone else should just become a murder ball to deal with the Long Arms egg which prevents you to pause, also possesed employees are controllable again once they reach the bird's room, so be careful and move them out when you can

After the Long Arms is dead, grab every employee that deals black damage from your murder ball and tell them to attack the Small Beak egg, while everyone else should attack the Big Eyes egg, the fight should be a lot more manageable at this point since pausing helps out a lot

[Screen Lady]

If one has Blue Star, and a LOT of time, you can send one nugget into the day to release two of the three birds, before entering the Shelter of March.
None of the eggs are immune to white damage, so they will VERY SLOWLY die.
You'd need to keep your game open for a few hours for it to probably work, but it is a way to cheese it. Just return to memory after it dies to keep the gear and your nugget so you won't have to finish the day.
If you have Nothing There, I recommend not to do this though, as it can softlock itself with Small Beak and infinitely heal it while trying to kill it.

Best cheese I can think of.

Originally posted by UnknownPlayer:

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Also what they said here is really helpful for this strat too.

Originally posted by Grim Xzag:

Apocalypse Bird vs Dragon.
Let both Yin and Yang out of their containment room while the Advent has started.
Wait until they merge together to summon big dragon from above. Hope it hits an Egg, instantly killing it, because it reverses HP (Max HP to 0 HP). Clean up the rest.

Optimally, you want to lower the Qliphoth Counters of dangerous 2+ Qliphoth abnormalities such as Blue Star, since the dragon will reverse Qliphoth counters as well (Max to 0, mid to mid, Min to Max, etc.).

This also works with WhiteNights Apostles, allowing them to be permanently defeated.

[Illius]

Personal recommendations; Split your teams into their damage types.
Next, find the Justice Bird egg, as reenabling pausing is aHUGE boon, plus mitigates the unblockable pale damage (every other damage type can be cleared from rooms). Just remember each egg HEALS from it's respective damage type (Ex. Justice heals from Pale)

Next; Make sure you have people in front of abnormalities that are dangerous to deal with the counters. Realistically you can ignore some weaker abnormalities such as Forsaken Murderer and just recontain them later.


Sadly it's very tough to simply "Cheese" because of how random the fight can be.

[Grim Xzag]

sigh, saddly its really easy to cheese every fight with how you can reduce the variables needed to get cheese up and running.

Its not as bad as doing WhiteNight vs Last Helix requiring levels of RNG with WhiteNight's position, what Midnight Ordeal will show up, whether or not you will even reach Meltdown 8, etc. Dragon is obv the fastest method of killing WhiteNight as a few less Apostles makes easy fight easier.

Blue Star vs Apocalypse Bird requires no RNG, as Blue Star deals a constant 10-15 damage every 5 seconds, and Apocalypse Bird basically releases them every time because of the 5 Qliphoth Meltdowns every 1 to 2 minutes. You can even decrease it physically by using a level 4 Prudence employee or use the Shelter (which you should be using). Only problem is time, as it takes 2 hours to beat Long arms with it's 0.5 resistance and 9900 HP

Even dragon only has 1 level of RNG with where the dragon will go (whether Yin and Yang's meeting spot is to the left or to the right of the facility). Which is removed by releasing them again, and you should know how easy it is to let them out. Dragon Cheese is always the most efficient as its pretty easy to release and will 1 shot the eggs.

Even Nothing There can take out 2/3rds of the Apocalypse Bird if you know how to lure them around the facility. Nothing There can easily be let out with a Level 3 or lower Justice employee. Even if they get stuck on Smol Beak, they can easily be killed because they will never turn around (double cheese). Nothing there is the 2nd shortest, taking about an hour to take out Long Arms and Big Eyes.

[THAD]

Originally posted by Grim Xzag:

sigh, saddly its really easy to cheese every fight with how you can reduce the variables needed to get cheese up and running.

Its not as bad as doing WhiteNight vs Last Helix requiring levels of RNG with WhiteNight's position, what Midnight Ordeal will show up, whether or not you will even reach Meltdown 8, etc. Dragon is obv the fastest method of killing WhiteNight as a few less Apostles makes easy fight easier.

Blue Star vs Apocalypse Bird requires no RNG, as Blue Star deals a constant 10-15 damage every 5 seconds, and Apocalypse Bird basically releases them every time because of the 5 Qliphoth Meltdowns every 1 to 2 minutes. You can even decrease it physically by using a level 4 Prudence employee or use the Shelter (which you should be using). Only problem is time, as it takes 2 hours to beat Long arms with it's 0.5 resistance and 9900 HP

Even dragon only has 1 level of RNG with where the dragon will go (whether Yin and Yang's meeting spot is to the left or to the right of the facility). Which is removed by releasing them again, and you should know how easy it is to let them out. Dragon Cheese is always the most efficient as its pretty easy to release and will 1 shot the eggs.

Even Nothing There can take out 2/3rds of the Apocalypse Bird if you know how to lure them around the facility. Nothing There can easily be let out with a Level 3 or lower Justice employee. Even if they get stuck on Smol Beak, they can easily be killed because they will never turn around (double cheese). Nothing there is the 2nd shortest, taking about an hour to take out Long Arms and Big Eyes.

dam that is serious cheese

[QSBraWQ]

If anyone still wonders...
simple cheese, but you won't get ego gift (since it'll be very hard to actually end the day)

1) Get Blue Star
2) Get the bunker
3) Remove all gear from all employees (preferabbly during a memory imprint day)
4) Go to the bunker
5) Wait
Blue Star will constantly deal white damage to all of the eggs. Since none of them absorb white, they will eventually die.
6) Once AB dies, reload memory imprint
I did it with the mod "TT10", it only sped up by 1.5x, but still, it took about 20 minutes. You don't need any input though, so just go afk

[Everett]

blue star + shelter
wait an hour