Ending questions (Spoilers)

[Mecahawk]

I have a few questions I wanted to pose because I'm not sure I understood a lot of the ending. I thought most of the game was fantastic, but the ending left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

Was the ending meant as social criticism of the Danganronpa players and community? Supposedly the audience turns over a new leaf but they STILL decide not to save Tsumugi or K1-B0 in the end.

Are they computer generated in a cyber world, or are they real physical people with their memories blanked and rewritten? It indicates the latter, but it seems strange to me that they would kill real physical people when in Danganronpa 2, it's all virtual and everyone lives and comes back.

Did they ever explain who Kaede's sister was?

Also, one of the outside world audience looked like Ron Paul to me.

[Jody]

I think the "real world audience" they are referring to is actually the fictional world where Danganronpa has launched 53 games, so they're not directly slapping our face. (But I do admit that I like watching hope beating despair, haha)

Also in that world, numerous Danganronpa fans have signed up to participate in the next killing games, and whoever is chosen, the "team Danganronpa" will write a fictional killing story using them as characters.

So nobody really died in the "real world". You see, all those 16 people are just ordinary students in the "real world"; it's in this fictional killing game that they gain ultimate talents, kill each other, etc.

[Mecahawk]

It makes me kinda sad if the whole game (either that or the whole series) was nothing of consequence.

[Emperor Painguin]

Originally posted by WithFieryTruth:

Basically, the whole game is focused on lying, so you can't really trust anything that's thrown at you.
The game starts off with a class trial based on lies by Monokuma/Tsumugi in Chapter 1, you're introduced to a mechanic where you yourself are lying in the class trials, there's an entire character (Kokichi) who's pretty much the Ultimate Liar (despite that not being his talent), and so on.

Kaede's twin sister might very well be completely made up, considering Tsumugi is the one who brought up the subject.
Actually, for all we know the stuff about Hope's Peak and whatnot being fictional and this being the 53rd killing game could just be a very elaborate lie to make the characters feel despair.

This. I actually was waiting for Tsumugi at the end to be like "just kidding, this is all real" or something like that, but that kind of reveal never happened. Still thought the ending was good though.

[Sunwave]

Originally posted by Emperor Painguin:

Originally posted by WithFieryTruth:

Basically, the whole game is focused on lying, so you can't really trust anything that's thrown at you.

Well, one of her last lines was about if she managed to be a good copy of junko. Perhaps she was just fangirling. There are many options possible:

- Either the DR1, DR2, UDG, DR3 universe is fake and this is the 53rd game, or Tsumugi simply lied about it because she wanted to bring despair to the survivors. (Also, the cospox means nothing. It could be her faking it, it could be her having the wrong memories of who is "fictional", etc.)
- Same for their personalities being fake. They could just as well be real personalities who just forgot about their previous lives. They're not "scripted" but just manipulated. Either way is possible, since none are proven or disproved.
- They are either kidnapped (as they remember at the start, until the flashback light overwrites that part) or they could actually have done the application.
- The Gofer project is certainly fake, no matter how you look at it.

I prefer to think Tsumugi was lying, and she was just trying to "cosplay" Junko including her killing games, and this is not the 53rd danganronpa game by far (maybe the 4th/5th killing game as per the series). All the characters were kidnapped and given fake memories (proven by the kidnapped memory which is erased later), and they are actually ultimate students (after all, some things like Gonta's strenght, Kirumi's skills and Ryoma's speed can not be aquired by "normal" people just by adding some memories) who were given fake memories (But not fake backstories).

[Vashe]

I just finished the game, the ending was.. intriging. I wasn't expecting this, I thought it was unrelated to previous games. I got trolled !

I know its not really a sequel because it destroys the entire storyline (if its "real"), DGR1 & 2 gave me despair at the end but not this time. I'm a bit disappointed by the ending actually

edit : No actually I feel TRUE despair, will we get another game ? (And this time it cant be a sequel)

[Battler Ushiromiya]

No, it was not meant as any sort of criticism to the DR fanbase. They are all real people. I don't understand your DR2 comparison, these are completely different situations. They never explain who Kaede's sister is.

[Mecahawk]

There's an ad in the game for Despair Girls 2, so it seems there's some truth to the old games as existing. Otherwise people would know ahead of times that Despair Girls would be "fiction" too.

[Sepiablitz]

Originally posted by Mecahawk1G:

It makes me kinda sad if the whole game (either that or the whole series) was nothing of consequence.

It was of consequence, 13 "real" people died, that is the most out of all killing games.. Nothing of consequence is rather a reason to be mad at DR3 All 6 survivors of DR1 survive again, all 15 "real" participants of DR2 are still alive.
As it was said that DRV3 is the beginning of a new arc, I think we will see a clarification of the ending in the future. It does not make a lot of sense the reveal every mystery of #1 in #1 of an arc, does it? So while I do understand where you are coming from, I think we will have to wait for a DR4/DRV4 to correctly judge the ending.

[Battler Ushiromiya]

Originally posted by Sepiablitz:

Originally posted by Mecahawk1G:

It makes me kinda sad if the whole game (either that or the whole series) was nothing of consequence.

It was of consequence, 13 "real" people died, that is the most out of all killing games.. Nothing of consequence is rather a reason to be mad at DR3 All 6 survivors of DR1 survive again, all 15 "real" participants of DR2 are still alive.
As it was said that DRV3 is the beginning of a new arc, I think we will see a clarification of the ending in the future. It does not make a lot of sense the reveal every mystery of #1 in #1 of an arc, does it? So while I do understand where you are coming from, I think we will have to wait for a DR4/DRV4 to correctly judge the ending.

We already knew the DR2 cast was alive by the end of that, and we knew they had the potential to come back. Also, only three of the DR1 cast were actually in the killing game, and all but one of the DR3 cast died. How is that nothing of consequence?

[Sepiablitz]

Originally posted by Battler Ushiromiya:

How is that nothing of consequence?

I'm sorry I worded that badly. The emphasis should be on the word "rather". I do not think that it was without any consequence, I just think there could have been more. For example Kyoko staying dead, and maybe not ALL of DR2 revived but the most recent deaths like Nagito, Gundam and Nekomaru?
But don't misunderstand me: I still think that DR3 was good despite this minor disagreement with the ending.

[Mecahawk]

Originally posted by Battler Ushiromiya:

Originally posted by Sepiablitz:

It was of consequence, 13 "real" people died, that is the most out of all killing games.. Nothing of consequence is rather a reason to be mad at DR3 All 6 survivors of DR1 survive again, all 15 "real" participants of DR2 are still alive.
As it was said that DRV3 is the beginning of a new arc, I think we will see a clarification of the ending in the future. It does not make a lot of sense the reveal every mystery of #1 in #1 of an arc, does it? So while I do understand where you are coming from, I think we will have to wait for a DR4/DRV4 to correctly judge the ending.

We already knew the DR2 cast was alive by the end of that, and we knew they had the potential to come back. Also, only three of the DR1 cast were actually in the killing game, and all but one of the DR3 cast died. How is that nothing of consequence?

Well that's the thing, either the previous canon of 1,2,3 were all real or v3 is real. It's possible that Tsumugi was immitating the first couple Danganronpas, effectively making it a separate timeline, but bringing up the possibility that it was all fake harms the foundation of the canon in my opinion.

[Battler Ushiromiya]

Originally posted by Mecahawk1G:

Originally posted by Battler Ushiromiya:

We already knew the DR2 cast was alive by the end of that, and we knew they had the potential to come back. Also, only three of the DR1 cast were actually in the killing game, and all but one of the DR3 cast died. How is that nothing of consequence?

Well that's the thing, either the previous canon of 1,2,3 were all real or v3 is real. It's possible that Tsumugi was immitating the first couple Danganronpas, effectively making it a separate timeline, but bringing up the possibility that it was all fake harms the foundation of the canon in my opinion.

There are definite possibilities beside that, such as they both exist and Tsumugi was just bullshitting half her explanation. But either way, DR1/2/3 are real in their own universe, even if they're not real in the v3 universe. Those events actually happened there.

[Mecahawk]

Originally posted by Battler Ushiromiya:

There are definite possibilities beside that, such as they both exist and Tsumugi was just bullshitting half her explanation. But either way, DR1/2/3 are real in their own universe, even if they're not real in the v3 universe. Those events actually happened there.

Ultimately high school level chain yanker

[Battler Ushiromiya]

Originally posted by Mecahawk1G:

Originally posted by Battler Ushiromiya:

There are definite possibilities beside that, such as they both exist and Tsumugi was just bullshitting half her explanation. But either way, DR1/2/3 are real in their own universe, even if they're not real in the v3 universe. Those events actually happened there.

Ultimately high school level chain yanker

I don't understand.

[Mecahawk]

If we can't believe anything Tsumugi said, it makes the v3 ending a little pointless. We don't know what parts of what she said is true or false. I get that the whole game is about lying, but you normally want to clear that up by the end of the game.