Don't be surprised if GM changes your name without breaking rules

[mirta000]

https://youtu.be/Rx0Cvx6zLiE

GMCicaca (you can not put GM in front of your name when naming yourself) decided that nobody else should hold the name "Cicada" either. NA-West guy that paid for headstart name reserve got renamed to "clcada", NA-East guy got renamed to "Cacida". Both happened just this week. Without any message, notification, anything. Just boom, your name changed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapleStory2/comments/9q7ekp/name_changed_without_notification_or_reason/

there are comments here from people that did not screenshot their character creator screen (understandable considering you do not expect this to happen), so they have harder time in making a case, but on Occeania a person had their names Durandal and Lich changed to Drurandal and iich with a capital 'i' at the start, once again because a Nexon employee wanted a specific name for their personal account.

What's next? Take gear from players inventories too because you want it? Destroy housing plats because you want it?

How is any of this okay?

[Crow Armbrust]

Nexon is filled with a bunch of Korean idiots and always do scummy stuff.

[Vivianite]

because having that name (Cicada) would violate section V of the ToS:

You will not use the Services in any manner that, in Nexon’s sole discretion, is unlawful or could damage, disable, overburden, or impair the Services or interfere with Nexon’s or any others’ use and enjoyment of the Services. Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, prohibited conduct includes the following, subject to applicable law:

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Impersonating any person or entity or otherwise misrepresenting your affiliation, identity, or the origin of materials you transmit, or misrepresenting that your statements or actions are endorsed by Nexon. 

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Engaging in any other conduct that, in Nexon’s sole judgment, exposes us, any of our users, or any other third party to any liability, damages, or detriment of any type. 

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WE MAY WITHHOLD, SUSPEND, MODIFY, OR TERMINATE YOUR ACCESS TO THE SERVICES FOR ANY OR NO REASON AT ANY TIME WITHOUT NOTICE UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW.

by having that name, this files under it, and sorry to say this but hey, you have to agree to these terms before you get to play.

[Lunacy]

If they can just change your name
then why do you just get banned for having an offensive name?

[mirta000]

Originally posted by Vivianite:

because having that name (Cicada) would violate section V of the ToS:

You will not use the Services in any manner that, in Nexon’s sole discretion, is unlawful or could damage, disable, overburden, or impair the Services or interfere with Nexon’s or any others’ use and enjoyment of the Services. Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, prohibited conduct includes the following, subject to applicable law:

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Impersonating any person or entity or otherwise misrepresenting your affiliation, identity, or the origin of materials you transmit, or misrepresenting that your statements or actions are endorsed by Nexon. 

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Engaging in any other conduct that, in Nexon’s sole judgment, exposes us, any of our users, or any other third party to any liability, damages, or detriment of any type. 

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WE MAY WITHHOLD, SUSPEND, MODIFY, OR TERMINATE YOUR ACCESS TO THE SERVICES FOR ANY OR NO REASON AT ANY TIME WITHOUT NOTICE UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW.

by having that name, this files under it, and sorry to say this but hey, you have to agree to these terms before you get to play. :Burn:

Cicada was a bug. GMCicada was originally belonging to Mabinogi. I can not add GM to my or any name. So by their rules one needs to be psychic about GM changes, memorize all Nexon employees and know that the rule applies to names without GM tag too?

[Vivianite]

Originally posted by mirta000:

Originally posted by Vivianite:

because having that name (Cicada) would violate section V of the ToS:

You will not use the Services in any manner that, in Nexon’s sole discretion, is unlawful or could damage, disable, overburden, or impair the Services or interfere with Nexon’s or any others’ use and enjoyment of the Services. Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, prohibited conduct includes the following, subject to applicable law:

...

Impersonating any person or entity or otherwise misrepresenting your affiliation, identity, or the origin of materials you transmit, or misrepresenting that your statements or actions are endorsed by Nexon. 

...

Engaging in any other conduct that, in Nexon’s sole judgment, exposes us, any of our users, or any other third party to any liability, damages, or detriment of any type. 

...

WE MAY WITHHOLD, SUSPEND, MODIFY, OR TERMINATE YOUR ACCESS TO THE SERVICES FOR ANY OR NO REASON AT ANY TIME WITHOUT NOTICE UNLESS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW.

by having that name, this files under it, and sorry to say this but hey, you have to agree to these terms before you get to play.

Cicada was a bug. GMCicada was originally belonging to Mabinogi. I can not add GM to my or any name. So by their rules one needs to be psychic about GM changes, memorize all Nexon employees and know that the rule applies to names without GM tag too?

well, you agree to the terms before you play, that's the problem, and in their eyes, your problem.

its not to memorize their names, it's that they can change it without notice.

[Kyutaru]

GM Cicada has existed on other games for Nexon. It could definitely be seen as an act of impersonation however rather than ban the guy Nexon didn't assume anything and just changed the name to comply with the rules. What's the issue? When there's no way of knowing the INTENT of a person's name selection, you simply go ahead and ban the usage.

I had an issue with Bethesda changing my signature and giving me a political warning for using a phrase that included the word 'trump' in it. The English word trump. It literally had nothing to do with politics but they banned the word entirely on the mere possibility of politics.

Get used to it. The company's terms literally give them blanket authorization to do whatever they want. It's like inviting someone to your house and letting them know that you make the rules. That's kind of EXPECTED. You can, for any reason whatsoever, declare their name is now Bobby and if they don't like it then they can just leave your house.

[mirta000]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

GM Cicada has existed on other games for Nexon. It could definitely be seen as an act of impersonation however rather than ban the guy Nexon didn't assume anything and just changed the name to comply with the rules. What's the issue? When there's no way of knowing the INTENT of a person's name selection, you simply go ahead and ban the usage.

I had an issue with Bethesda changing my signature and giving me a political warning for using a phrase that included the word 'trump' in it. The English word trump. It literally had nothing to do with politics but they banned the word entirely on the mere possibility of politics.

Get used to it. The company's terms literally give them blanket authorization to do whatever they want. It's like inviting someone to your house and letting them know that you make the rules. That's kind of EXPECTED. You can, for any reason whatsoever, declare their name is now Bobby and if they don't like it then they can just leave your house.

The issue is that to get that name, they had to pay 25$. For 1 month it was completely fine, including when they were playing side by side with GMCicada during Mushking Royale. The change occured without as much as an email shot to you.

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by mirta000:

The issue is that to get that name, they had to pay 25$. For 1 month it was completely fine, including when they were playing side by side with GMCicada during Mushking Royale. The change occured without as much as an email shot to you.

The player should submit a request for a refund rather than continually acting like he has a moral right to the name. The company isn't going to do it for him or notify him that it's an option because *ding ding* money.

[Vivianite]

Originally posted by mirta000:

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

GM Cicada has existed on other games for Nexon. It could definitely be seen as an act of impersonation however rather than ban the guy Nexon didn't assume anything and just changed the name to comply with the rules. What's the issue? When there's no way of knowing the INTENT of a person's name selection, you simply go ahead and ban the usage.

I had an issue with Bethesda changing my signature and giving me a political warning for using a phrase that included the word 'trump' in it. The English word trump. It literally had nothing to do with politics but they banned the word entirely on the mere possibility of politics.

Get used to it. The company's terms literally give them blanket authorization to do whatever they want. It's like inviting someone to your house and letting them know that you make the rules. That's kind of EXPECTED. You can, for any reason whatsoever, declare their name is now Bobby and if they don't like it then they can just leave your house.

The issue is that to get that name, they had to pay 25$. For 1 month it was completely fine, including when they were playing side by side with GMCicada during Mushking Royale. The change occured without as much as an email shot to you.

see section IV:

VIRTUAL CONTENTS, INCLUDING VIRTUAL CONTENTS EXCHANGED FOR PREPAID PAYMENT INSTRUMENTS, ARE REGARDED AS GOODS OR SERVICES, AND ARE NOT PREPAID PAYMENT INSTRUMENTS. Virtual currency and points have no “real-world” value but may be exchanged for in-game items. Items from such stores are not purchased by you, but rather are licensed to you under these Terms. REGARDLESS OF THE CONSIDERATION OFFERED OR PAID IN EXCHANGE FOR VIRTUAL CURRENCY, YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY OWNERSHIP RIGHTS IN THE ITEMS OBTAINED WITH VIRTUAL CURRENCY.

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YOU UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT NEXON WILL NOT OFFER REFUNDS FOR VIRTUAL CURRENCY OR DIGITAL, IN-GAME ITEMS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION TERMINATION OR EXPIRATION OF YOUR ACCOUNT, THESE TERMS, OR THE SERVICES, EXCEPT AS EXPRESSLY REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW. If an account is permanently banned, all content licenses and virtual currency balances associated with the suspended account are forfeited. Nexon will have no obligation or responsibility to and will not reimburse you for any virtual currency, points, items, or experience lost due to your violation of these Terms. 

even if they fought back for 25$ this is what get's them good, they can't, and won't, get a refund.

[Alanna]

Originally posted by mirta000:

The issue is that to get that name, they had to pay 25$. For 1 month it was completely fine, including when they were playing side by side with GMCicada during Mushking Royale. The change occured without as much as an email shot to you.

That's not entirely true. Mushking Royale was free to play, and your character from there transferred over when headstart launched. You didn't need to pay the $25 to reserve a name you already had during Mushking, only to play the headstart and reserve other names you wanted before the game officially launched.

[Kyutaru]

They didn't even fight for $25. The reddit post clearly shows in Edit 2 that he requested a name change voucher. Which he ultimately received. Customer satisfied.

Instead his basis for continuing the fight is "I'D WANT THAT NAME BECAUSE I RESERVED IT".

The name's gone, the reasons were given, and the player was compensated. Continuing to make this an issue means you're more concerned with the audacity of such a thing happening at all rather than realizing that this is what customer service is for -- mending mistakes.

[mirta000]

Originally posted by Alanna:

Originally posted by mirta000:

The issue is that to get that name, they had to pay 25$. For 1 month it was completely fine, including when they were playing side by side with GMCicada during Mushking Royale. The change occured without as much as an email shot to you.

That's not entirely true. Mushking Royale was free to play, and your character from there transferred over when headstart launched. You didn't need to pay the $25 to reserve a name you already had during Mushking, only to play the headstart and reserve other names you wanted before the game officially launched.

You could not reserve a different name. Everyone got to reserve only 1 name before headstart. That being said before mushking came up and everyone got the news that F2P players can reserve a name too, founders pack included name reservation. Founders pack owners ended up creating their characters and competing for names good few weeks before mushking even launched. This is when NA-West Cicada reserved his name.

[Alanna]

Originally posted by mirta000:

Originally posted by Alanna:

That's not entirely true. Mushking Royale was free to play, and your character from there transferred over when headstart launched. You didn't need to pay the $25 to reserve a name you already had during Mushking, only to play the headstart and reserve other names you wanted before the game officially launched.

You could not reserve a different name. Everyone got to reserve only 1 name before headstart. That being said before mushking came up and everyone got the news that F2P players can reserve a name too, founders pack included name reservation. Founders pack owners ended up creating their characters and competing for names good few weeks before mushking even launched. This is when NA-West Cicada reserved his name.

Founder's were able to reserve on August 14, Mushking Royale launched on August 22. His character was created on August 23, 2018. Therefore, I assume it was free.

Edit: It even says they "patiently waited for public name reservation."

[mirta000]

Originally posted by Alanna:

Founder's were able to reserve on August 14, Mushking Royale launched on August 22. His character was created on August 23, 2018. Therefore, I assume it was free.

That's not creation date. That's "last logged in" date.

[Alanna]

Originally posted by mirta000:

Originally posted by Alanna:

Founder's were able to reserve on August 14, Mushking Royale launched on August 22. His character was created on August 23, 2018. Therefore, I assume it was free.

That's not creation date. That's "last logged in" date.

My memories probably off, thought that was creation date, my apologies. Even then, it still says they waited for public name reservation.

Edit: Definitely creation date. Even though I'm not currently able to log into MapleStory, from the screenshots they gave, the date stayed the same even though they changed locations and leveled up.