Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

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monkeyboy Aug 17, 2019 @ 12:17am
SAVE Games DISAPPEAR !!!!
Why did my savegames disappear? I had like 30 - and suddenly all down to 19 disappeared - and also if i make now a save - after restarting the game its gone too!!!

WTF???
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monkeyboy Aug 17, 2019 @ 2:39am 
where r the save games stored anyway?
With or without Steam Cloud?

Anti-virus, anti-malware security solutions are known to cause problems like that, because they interfere with the game and block access to files. Do some troubleshooting with regard to that.

The game doesn't delete any savegame files on its own. The files are still found on your local storage, but security software you are running may cause permission problems. Nothing the game can fix itself.
ADV Aug 17, 2019 @ 4:30pm 
I have the same problem. To stop it happening you have to do this:

1) manual save
2) move your group to somewhere else on the map
3) wait 30 seconds to a minute
4) manual save

Alternatively:

The actions below will have to be done every single time you save inside the game.

Step 1) Go to:
%USERPROFILE% \Saved Games\

Step 2) Right click "Pillars of Eternity II" folder, Select 'Properties'

Step 3) UN-check [ ] Read-Only (Only applies to files in folder)

Step 4) Click OK


To replicate the problem:
If you manual save, then manual save again (within 30 seconds to a minute) and the map and position of group hasn't changed then clicking 'Save Game' from the main menu will delete seemingly random manual saves.

Fantastic job obsidian.

Latest version as of 18/08/2019
Game on G: drive
Saves on C: drive
Last edited by ADV; Aug 17, 2019 @ 4:39pm
Originally posted by ADV:
To replicate the problem:
If you manual save, then manual save again (within 30 seconds to a minute) and the map and position of group hasn't changed then clicking 'Save Game' from the main menu will delete seemingly random manual saves.
You must be kidding. The game never deletes any manual savegame files unless you ask for that. Perhaps you're running some anti-virus tool that quarantines the savegame files since they are renamed .ZIP archives with contents that may lead to false positive detection of dangerous contents.
👌m8 Aug 17, 2019 @ 7:34pm 
I'm having the opposite problem. Everytime I try to overwrite an old Manual Save, it writes a new save with the same name instead while the old save still remains.

edit:
Originally posted by ADV:
I have the same problem. To stop it happening you have to do this:

1) manual save
2) move your group to somewhere else on the map
3) wait 30 seconds to a minute
4) manual save

Alternatively:

The actions below will have to be done every single time you save inside the game.

Step 1) Go to:
%USERPROFILE% \Saved Games\

Step 2) Right click "Pillars of Eternity II" folder, Select 'Properties'

Step 3) UN-check [ ] Read-Only (Only applies to files in folder)

Step 4) Click OK


To replicate the problem:
If you manual save, then manual save again (within 30 seconds to a minute) and the map and position of group hasn't changed then clicking 'Save Game' from the main menu will delete seemingly random manual saves.

Fantastic job obsidian.

Latest version as of 18/08/2019
Game on G: drive
Saves on C: drive
I'm having a problem replicating the issue since my save files weren't being deleted. I tried to clean the save folder and then replicating the problem once more by creating a new game, but it still doesn't work. I also tried deleting some of my saves while keeping the ones in my current playthrough to narrow the observation, but still no dice. Could it be the issue lies within another software that affects the game? My saves are located on C: while the game is located on D:
Last edited by 👌m8; Aug 17, 2019 @ 8:03pm
monkeyboy Aug 18, 2019 @ 5:42am 
Originally posted by ADV:
I have the same problem. To stop it happening you have to do this:

1) manual save
2) move your group to somewhere else on the map
3) wait 30 seconds to a minute
4) manual save

Alternatively:

The actions below will have to be done every single time you save inside the game.

Step 1) Go to:
%USERPROFILE% \Saved Games\

Step 2) Right click "Pillars of Eternity II" folder, Select 'Properties'

Step 3) UN-check [ ] Read-Only (Only applies to files in folder)

Step 4) Click OK


To replicate the problem:
If you manual save, then manual save again (within 30 seconds to a minute) and the map and position of group hasn't changed then clicking 'Save Game' from the main menu will delete seemingly random manual saves.

Fantastic job obsidian.

Latest version as of 18/08/2019
Game on G: drive
Saves on C: drive


I tried that - so unfortunately also the change of read-only to rw /and the double manual saved in 2 different locations (even 2 different loading screens) did not help to load saved games after leaving and restarting game again

monkeyboy Aug 18, 2019 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by monkeyboy:
Originally posted by ADV:
I have the same problem. To stop it happening you have to do this:

1) manual save
2) move your group to somewhere else on the map
3) wait 30 seconds to a minute
4) manual save

Alternatively:

The actions below will have to be done every single time you save inside the game.

Step 1) Go to:
%USERPROFILE% \Saved Games\

Step 2) Right click "Pillars of Eternity II" folder, Select 'Properties'

Step 3) UN-check [ ] Read-Only (Only applies to files in folder)

Step 4) Click OK


To replicate the problem:
If you manual save, then manual save again (within 30 seconds to a minute) and the map and position of group hasn't changed then clicking 'Save Game' from the main menu will delete seemingly random manual saves.

Fantastic job obsidian.

Latest version as of 18/08/2019
Game on G: drive
Saves on C: drive


I tried that - so unfortunately also the change of read-only to rw /and the double manual saved in 2 different locations (even 2 different loading screens) did not help to load saved games after leaving and restarting game again


In additon to that I observed 2 things:

1)saved games (by timestap r physically still in the save directory)

2)even weirder the loadable games list seem to randomly change (appart from autosave) with what saved games are available to load !!!! So sometimes i have game 19 and 33 ++ and another time 17 and 25 ++ in the loading list after a restart...

OBSIDIAN - your save/loading UI needs some serious workover!!!! I have already verfied files integrity... so there was no issue...
ADV Aug 20, 2019 @ 9:36pm 
Sorry I can't help you more, I've since finished and deleted Deadfire, But I found some useful information here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/projecteternity/comments/8qe5oj/anyone_else_experiencing_a_bug_where_your_save/
👌m8 Aug 20, 2019 @ 11:12pm 
I could now replicate the problem by following some more conditions:
  • While in-game, make sure it's paused (default 'Space')
  • Create a new manual save by naming it "A" without the quotation marks
  • Create a new manual save again by naming it "B" without the quotation marks
Expected outcome: Checking the saved files would not show save file "A" while save file "B" remains.

Note: Any manual save names do the same thing. I just used the ones above to make a clearer analysis. Not naming the manual save would not replicate the problem whatsoever. Edit: It would also not work if the in-game clock changes. It looks like the information of the in-game clock could be the source of the problem, but I doubt they would fix this.
Last edited by 👌m8; Aug 20, 2019 @ 11:16pm
monkeyboy Aug 21, 2019 @ 1:36am 
Originally posted by 👌m8:
I could now replicate the problem by following some more conditions:
  • While in-game, make sure it's paused (default 'Space')
  • Create a new manual save by naming it "A" without the quotation marks
  • Create a new manual save again by naming it "B" without the quotation marks
Expected outcome: Checking the saved files would not show save file "A" while save file "B" remains.

Note: Any manual save names do the same thing. I just used the ones above to make a clearer analysis. Not naming the manual save would not replicate the problem whatsoever. Edit: It would also not work if the in-game clock changes. It looks like the information of the in-game clock could be the source of the problem, but I doubt they would fix this.


Interesting - gonna try with pausing game too - and yeah maybe the manual naming of save causes that flaw... but thats something they definitely should have tested or at least fix
YoChance Feb 19 @ 4:27pm 
I know I am super late to this discussion. But I fixed it by just turning off AV. All of my saves showed up after this. I was troubleshooting for hours!
I also had some save files lost.

Checking the save file folder, we can see that files can be overwritten because the savefile name is a concatenation of the:

name of the main character + UID (of the game, I guess) + Current "patch version" + Current coordinate of the Party in the world.

So, if you save 2 files in the exact same location (and using the same "patch version") then the old one will be overwritten.

Unexpectedely, the name that you give to the save slot is not included in actual filename. The solution is to try not saving in the same coordinate, that can be hard to remember...
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