Yikes, finally just had turn down the difficulty for Oracle of Wael

[firuath]

Yeah, got up to 12 or 13 tries and just couldn't be do it anymore. Slept in Konstanten's room for the spell resistance chance, crafted arcane reflection potions, loaded up my two wizards with as many wilting winds scrolls as they could carry, respeced the party twice to try different combos, and still couldn't get through.

Either we'd go from "oh my god we're almost going to win" to "...and now we're totally annihilated" in about 30 seconds whenever he hit blooded or almost dead, or I'd actually kill the oracle but then surviving characters would get mobbed and killed by the adds.

Totally nuts battle. Cool to see something hard that made me try out different tactics, but eventually got too frustrating to be worth the effort. Popped it to story mode and it was over in less than a minute.

[rojimboo]

It's probably the toughest battle in the game, minus the superbosses I think (which I have yet to even attempt).

The adds alone are a decent fight, then you get omni-laser ray-with-debuffs-and-all-kinds-of-crap flying at multiple characters at once.

I still have no clue what destroying the totems(?) does exactly, but it does make it at least a bit easier. I think.

[👌m8]

Wall of Colors saved me in this fight.

[Rin]

What saved me in that fight was not only the always useful wall of colors (that damn thing was casting one of those too) but also movement. To get out of its AoE spells and have it focus on my fighters so the others could keep firing at it from further away ... it was sometimes tricky to make sure that it never gets to the ranged-team but this allwoed me to keep part of my group out of direct harms way for a big part of the fight (actually the fireball firing minions have been the bigger problems so I actually focused many spells on them to keep them from burning my people to crisp).

I think it still ended with all spells spent, bombs thrown and drunks drunk, lots of ressurections and Eder the only one left on his feet when the fight was over. But I won.

[firuath]

I wasn't sure about the totems and arteries either. Tried focusing on taking them out and didn't seem to help, as the one time I did kill the oracle (before getting swarmed by the adds) I didn't pay attention to them at all.

Keen to try this again now that I've started over in turn based mode. In real time with pause I was having some issues where Aloth would constantly decide to run into engagement range of the Oracle for no understandable reason so I'd always have to order him to move back before casting the next spell.

[Ping Crosby]

This was a hard fight (potd upscaled critical path)... it took several attempty to do. My approach was to have figurines and give everyone 5 scrolls of withdrawl. They took it in turns to heal. This is one tough fight... the thing that really makes it hard are the last lot of creatures that spawn when you get him to blooded or near death. Don't waste time with the totems. I killed them once - I saw no benefit from it. YT has videos of people soloing wael in 5 minutes... wtf!

I'm not planning on doing the mega bosses... I tried the spider - they are not fun, just tedious like the fights in SSS after a while.

[GloatingSwine]

If anyone's still having trouble with this, the biggest problem seems to be doing too much damage too quickly, because the adds in the fight spawn at health levels not over time, so burn the oracle down too fast and you get overwhelmed with AoE.

The best way to approach the fight is to have a Chanter spam out ogres and let them engage the Oracle whilst you stay back out of range chipping it down with ranged weapons, as soon as adds spawn break off and stomp them flat before they get ideas, especially the second and third spawn of Soul Mirrors can cast level 9 spells and a Minoletta's Missile Barrage can really ruin your day.

Don't attack the Artery Polyps, they generate a slog zone which is bad in a fight with lots of AoE. The adds will attack them sometimes.

Destroying the arcane conduits applies a hostile effect called "losing control" to the Oracle, but it's hilariously short lived and doesn't seem to do much of particular value or use.

Once the third wave of soul mirrors has been dealt with the Oracle will be near dead and won't get more reinforcements, go to town on it. Its lowest defence is Fortitude so spells like Ninagauth's Killing Bolt do a lot of damage.

[psychotron666]

I never found his fight tough to be honest, but that's in turn based mode and I was Max level by then. My main evoker Wizard made short work of the Oracle, the rest of the party was just there as meat shields

[Dinkleberg]

Tried this fight so many different ways and still get annihilated. i even turned it down to story mode and tried the different methods and still got destroyed. whats the point in having a fight this hard if most people cant do it?

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by Dinkleberg:

Tried this fight so many different ways and still get annihilated. i even turned it down to story mode and tried the different methods and still got destroyed. whats the point in having a fight this hard if most people cant do it?

Depends on your party. A single Wizard casting minoletta's barrage kills him in something like 4 casts even on PotD. If you can keep the rest of them alive for that long then you win the fight.