VTMR is Christoff Romuald cannon?

[Gingerlocks]

So I'm rather curious as to how cannon Christoff Romuald is in the bloodlines universe, And if we might see him in Bloodlines 2?

[Pretzel von Schnitzel]

He appeared in Final Nights, so i think he is in canon.
VTMB has nothing to do with it. Different teams, different characters, different plots. I highly doubt that he will appear and that is for the better.

[† ßâd•£üç]< Îñç™]

My understanding is that Redemption, unlike Bloodlines, is not cannon... and since it's another story altogether, I would not get my hopes up. At least White Wolf did include him[whitewolf.fandom.com] in some of the world's novelization, however.

[Gingerlocks]

Sad day man, hes one of my favorite characters.

[Kaziklu78]

He is as Canon as you want him to be. It is a RPG. The Canon is what you want it to be.

For example... Some people see Soul Eaters as Canon others not. Some see the 5th Malestrom as being full canon other not. The Week of Nightmares may or may not have happened.

Cats may be a type of Vampire, they may not. Brujah and Gangrel could be still in the Camarilla or not.

Canon in Classic World of Darkness is what ever you want it to be. Hell Julian Luna could be Canon if you wish him to be.

[Gingerlocks]

What i mean Kaziklu78 is does white wolf consider Christoff cannon and if so would he fit in the bloodlines universe?

[5iN]

He's canon in the table top RPG and is brought up in the Brujah and Nosferatu clan novels. Bloodlines is also canon and acts as a prequel to the Time of Judgement books. All of this is based on Vampire the Masquerade Revised (AKA 3rd Edition). In Vampire the Masquerade Revised, the world came to an end in 2004 with the Time of Judgement books.

Bloodlines 2 is being based on Vampire 5th Edition, which overhauled the canon of Vampire to bring it into 2018 (and later) and thus ignores the events of Time of Judgement.

So Redemption is canon in Bloodlines and Bloodlines 2. Bloodlines should be canon ONLY in Redemption. And Bloodlines 2 should NOT be canon to Bloodlines and Redemption. Think of it as two separate timelines with a LOT of RPG books and novels filling in the gaps.

Redemption>Bloodlines>End of the world
Redemption>Bloodlines 2

[Bluebeak]

Canon is whatever the developers of these games want, they could include him if they wanted to. Most likely they wouldn't since VtmR is obscure and most fans didn't play it. And I think they wouldn't bother tracking down his voice actor just for a cameo most people wouldn't get anyway.

[Gingerlocks]

That's very unfortunate, He was a pretty amazing character and i sincerely wanted to know more about his story and the overall endings to redemption.

[Axeface]

Originally posted by Kitsune:

That's very unfortunate, He was a pretty amazing character and i sincerely wanted to know more about his story and the overall endings to redemption.

I disagree with the previous poster, I dont think a character has to be well known to be picked to play a part in the game, Redemption also holds a cult kind of status in my opinion. During its highlight it was a big thing for the roleplay community, I played it for years. Also, Nicholas Guest is Christof's voice actor, and hes still working. He did work for Titanfall 2 in 2016.
I would love to meet Christof in bloodlines 2, it would be so amazing to see how he's changed. Aneska is another possibility, no spoilers as I dunno if youve completed redemption, but her character ark is very interesting.

Oh, and redemption is definately canon.

[Bluebeak]

Originally posted by Axeface:

Originally posted by Kitsune:

That's very unfortunate, He was a pretty amazing character and i sincerely wanted to know more about his story and the overall endings to redemption.

I disagree with the previous poster, I dont think a character has to be well known to be picked to play a part in the game, Redemption also holds a cult kind of status in my opinion. During its highlight it was a big thing for the roleplay community, I played it for years. Also, Nicholas Guest is Christof's voice actor, and hes still working. He did work for Titanfall 2 in 2016.
I would love to meet Christof in bloodlines 2, it would be so amazing to see how he's changed. Aneska is another possibility, no spoilers as I dunno if youve completed redemption, but her character ark is very interesting.

Oh, and redemption is definately canon.

It's more of a question of "why" to these developers. I would be genuinely surprised if any of the developers on VtmB2 will have played Redemption. I'm almost certain none of them have played the tabletop the game is based on, given how White Wolf ended it 10+ years prior and only very recently relaunched it. So to them Redemption is an obscure rpg that they never played and have no investment in, and there's very little demand to see Christof's reappear since his story was concluded in Redemption. This isn't like Shadowrun returns where they made the protagonist of the SNES Shadowrun reappear. With that game, the SNES Shadowrun was the blueprint for the game, so they wanted fans of it to buy it. With VtmB2, I predict a character from Bloodlines might reappear like Smiling Jack or Nines Rodriguez. But from Redemption most likely not.

There's also other more practical excuses to not include Christof like how the game ends in New York, and VtmB2 takes place in Seattle.

Canon with tabletop rpgs is really hard to definitively nail down because of how it's more a setting and not a full plot driven narrative, all stories are supposed to be set apart from each other. It's more of a question of if they'll even bother to remember Redemption existed or not.

[Gingerlocks]

Originally posted by Axeface:

Originally posted by Kitsune:

That's very unfortunate, He was a pretty amazing character and i sincerely wanted to know more about his story and the overall endings to redemption.

I disagree with the previous poster, I dont think a character has to be well known to be picked to play a part in the game, Redemption also holds a cult kind of status in my opinion. During its highlight it was a big thing for the roleplay community, I played it for years. Also, Nicholas Guest is Christof's voice actor, and hes still working. He did work for Titanfall 2 in 2016.
I would love to meet Christof in bloodlines 2, it would be so amazing to see how he's changed. Aneska is another possibility, no spoilers as I dunno if youve completed redemption, but her character ark is very interesting.

Oh, and redemption is definately canon.

I definitely agree with you, seeing how Christof and Aneska progress as characters would be very interesting to see. And I've completed redemption a good dozen or more times.

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well written characters, but they are obviously not written to cross other storylines. maybe just as very unobvious gimmicks, otherwise i would say that bloodlines 2 is going along with cheesy fan service.

[Asuzu]

This game and Bloodlines are not related at all, just the similar WoD masquerade setup.
This game is never mentioned or credited in Bloodlines 1 as well, so I srsly doubt it will get any mention in BL2
That being said, I love this game very much, all characters are awesome (well, maybe Serene is too bleak) and I find the romantic drama spanning hundreds of years to be amazing.
Graphics are dated, but whatever.
Once every few years I fire this and Bloodlines 1 up just because they are awesome games.

[Castyles]

I hope they give him a cameo on VTMB2 because he's one of my favorite characters. I was really surprised how much I liked him. His interactions in the modern era were hilarious.

[thisisspaaaaiiiin]

He shows up in Beckett's Jyhad Diary along with Ecaterina the Wise (now calling herself Katherine Weise) in Malta. So he's canon and he's still alive. While we'are at it, from Bloodlines:

-Therese and Jeanette are canon as well (they show up in 5th edition)
-Nines Rodriguez is too. They call him Armando Rodriguez in Beckett's diary.
-Of course, Jack and Beckett are canon as well.

Where i'm going with this is that, as of right now, both games are technically canon. Or at least the characters.