Count down to Feb 8 2025

[PYRACOR]

From my understanding AH has a contract of 1 year forcing them to keep gameguard as the form of anti cheat for this game. Meaning they have the ability to replace the anti cheat with a less invasive one. So here is the start of the countdown until Feb 8. I’m hoping they do intend to change the anti cheat so I can finally purchase this game. As well as the other patient people on this discussion board who have been waiting as I have.

[The dog]

can only hope.

[Fluffle Puff]

I'm not holding my breath for it.

[Wruce Bayne]

Source on that 1 year contract? Thought they went with the rootkit because Sony has a deal/partnership with INCA

[ReDsKuLL]

Here's the odd part about this supposed contract. If it were true, that still wouldn't make sense. This kind of contract would not be a "you are forced to use our anticheat for one year" deal. It would be a "you get to use our anticheat for a year" deal. Logically, they'd be able to drop/pay out the contract at any time and pick something else. This would have to either be Sony forcing something or AH having a very particular incentive to keep an anticheat that thousands of people have stated is the only reason they've not bought the game.

[PYRACOR]

Take my comment about a contract with a grain of salt. This was something being discussed as to why they couldn’t remedy this issue.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by PYRACOR:

Take my comment about a contract with a grain of salt. This was something being discussed as to why they couldn’t remedy this issue.

It'll be the final answer to your otherwise burning question. If they were going to remove it, it wouldn't be during a already paid for contract and waste that money.

If it remains after it's a possibly this happens, you just happen to know they likely renewed it which is also an answer.

[F1aw1ess]

I hope the do not do this. MAX protection against cheaters at any cost. No one cares if you didnt buy the game people have been playing for months now top played game on steam. Take off your tin foil hat i cant ensure you arent special enough for anyone to care besides some bean counter

[Hoovyknight]

Originally posted by F1aw1ess:

I hope the do not do this. MAX protection against cheaters at any cost. No one cares if you didnt buy the game people have been playing for months now top played game on steam. Take off your tin foil hat i cant ensure you arent special enough for anyone to care besides some bean counter

most played game on steam is counter strike: global offensive/counter strike 2

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by Hoovyknight:

Originally posted by F1aw1ess:

I hope the do not do this. MAX protection against cheaters at any cost. No one cares if you didnt buy the game people have been playing for months now top played game on steam. Take off your tin foil hat i cant ensure you arent special enough for anyone to care besides some bean counter

most played game on steam is counter strike: global offensive/counter strike 2

Some people exclude free to play they think it's unfair to count.

Regardless it's still #9 at the moment, so it's doing decent especially for a 4 player coop.

[Shadeball]

Originally posted by F1aw1ess:

I hope the do not do this. MAX protection against cheaters at any cost. No one cares if you didnt buy the game people have been playing for months now top played game on steam. Take off your tin foil hat i cant ensure you arent special enough for anyone to care besides some bean counter

those bean counters are pretty important for companies that want to increase profits

[PYRACOR]

Originally posted by F1aw1ess:

I hope the do not do this. MAX protection against cheaters at any cost. No one cares if you didnt buy the game people have been playing for months now top played game on steam. Take off your tin foil hat i cant ensure you arent special enough for anyone to care besides some bean counter

This is an interesting take. Why would you not want an anti cheat that actually performs well while also not being kernel level? There’s no conspiracy here. If you have any technical knowledge you will understand that regardless if it is being used nefariously. It can absolutely be exploited by individuals to gain access to your system. This is a fact and is why most people have an issue with this anti cheat. There are many reasons actually. Also from a business perspective it makes no logical sense to axe out a community of players who are willing to give you money. Just to use a more effective and less invasive anti cheat.

I reread your comment. Clearly you do not understand that we want a replacement for anti cheat. Not to remove it. You absolute dingus.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by Shadeball:

Originally posted by F1aw1ess:

I hope the do not do this. MAX protection against cheaters at any cost. No one cares if you didnt buy the game people have been playing for months now top played game on steam. Take off your tin foil hat i cant ensure you arent special enough for anyone to care besides some bean counter

those bean counters are pretty important for companies that want to increase profits

And they would likely be better off feeding content to the 130k current players or content to draw In that 400k+ then hope the sub 6k that signed the petition to remove the AC might buy it.

Consider it from their perspective and it's not hard to think why they haven't addressed this.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by PYRACOR:

Originally posted by F1aw1ess:

I hope the do not do this. MAX protection against cheaters at any cost. No one cares if you didnt buy the game people have been playing for months now top played game on steam. Take off your tin foil hat i cant ensure you arent special enough for anyone to care besides some bean counter

This is an interesting take. Why would you not want an anti cheat that actually performs well while also not being kernel level? There’s no conspiracy here. If you have any technical knowledge you will understand that regardless if it is being used nefariously. It can absolutely be exploited by individuals to gain access to your system. This is a fact and is why most people have an issue with this anti cheat. There are many reasons actually. Also from a business perspective it makes no logical sense to axe out a community of players who are willing to give you money. Just to use a more effective and less invasive anti cheat.

I reread your comment. Clearly you do not understand that we want a replacement for anti cheat. Not to remove it. You absolute dingus.

98% of Steam users are windows users which can also be exploited and now as far as targets go hackers go after bigger targets cuz more info. A recent example is the newest CVE-2024-20767 which targets Windows.

PCs have risks, just like driving cars. Bow you get to choose if you never get in a car ever or not but you're living in fear of an IF that may not come imo. You could also just go the Linux route to solid option.

[PYRACOR]

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

Originally posted by PYRACOR:

This is an interesting take. Why would you not want an anti cheat that actually performs well while also not being kernel level? There’s no conspiracy here. If you have any technical knowledge you will understand that regardless if it is being used nefariously. It can absolutely be exploited by individuals to gain access to your system. This is a fact and is why most people have an issue with this anti cheat. There are many reasons actually. Also from a business perspective it makes no logical sense to axe out a community of players who are willing to give you money. Just to use a more effective and less invasive anti cheat.

I reread your comment. Clearly you do not understand that we want a replacement for anti cheat. Not to remove it. You absolute dingus.

98% of Steam users are windows users which can also be exploited and now as far as targets go hackers go after bigger targets cuz more info. A recent example is the newest CVE-2024-20767 which targets Windows.

PCs have risks, just like driving cars. Bow you get to choose if you never get in a car ever or not but you're living in fear of an IF that may not come imo. You could also just go the Linux route to solid option.

So to equate what you are saying. The car is the pc and the anti cheat is the tires. I choose to use my pc just like I choose to drive. However I also get to choose what I add onto my car. This anti cheat is not something worth introducing into my pc. It adds a threat vector that other anti cheats do not cause. Therefore I chose to get into my car. But I also choose not to throw on crappy tires that have a critical flaw.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by PYRACOR:

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

98% of Steam users are windows users which can also be exploited and now as far as targets go hackers go after bigger targets cuz more info. A recent example is the newest CVE-2024-20767 which targets Windows.

PCs have risks, just like driving cars. Bow you get to choose if you never get in a car ever or not but you're living in fear of an IF that may not come imo. You could also just go the Linux route to solid option.

So to equate what you are saying. The car is the pc and the anti cheat is the tires. I choose to use my pc just like I choose to drive. However I also get to choose what I add onto my car. This anti cheat is not something worth introducing into my pc. It adds a threat vector that other anti cheats do not cause. Therefore I chose to get into my car. But I also choose not to throw on crappy tires that have a critical flaw.

All Anti cheat would "add a threat vector" that being direct access to your Kernel. If it's exploited it's an issue regardless of this AC or EAC or any other kernel level anti cheat or program even.

Also Windows OS has these same vulnerabilities, while having over paranoia about a specific AC, but the reality is you're on a box full of these vulnerabilities waiting to be discovered or exploited. You can't escape the fact that no matter what your PC has vulnerabilities, now you don't have to install this one sure. But it's replacement with another one isn't better, you just feel like name brand tires in this case are safer... they aren't they can still blow out, get the same nails, etc...

What you need to do is take precautions regardless of "tires" have a plan, be aware of the risks, so you know what to look out for rather then only buying "the best tires" so you now have a false sense of security "cuz they are the good ones" you know if your asking my opinion, which I know no one is but I'm still giving it xD