HELLDIVERS™ 2

HELLDIVERS™ 2

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El'Rabito 3 ABR 2024 a las 17:20
Gameguard disables access to HDD
Sometimes when i quit the game i can't access the HDD anymore in my system.
So i have to restart the whole PC to get access again.

Please fix, super annoying!


Game is on my 2 TB SSD on a second partition (First partition is only for Windows).

## Hardware
CPU: i7-4790k
GPU: GTX 1080
RAM: Corsair 16 GB DDR 1600
MB: Asus z-97 Pro
OS: Win 10 - Version 10.0.19045 Build 19045
SSD: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB
HDD: WDC WD6400AAKS-22A7B0
Última edición por El'Rabito; 3 ABR 2024 a las 17:22
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El'Rabito 6 ABR 2024 a las 6:39 
Publicado originalmente por ★ ace ★:
Yeah sounds like a faulty drive, buy a new one :cupup:
Please stop writing if you have no clue.
★ ace ★ 6 ABR 2024 a las 8:00 
Publicado originalmente por El Rabito:
Publicado originalmente por ★ ace ★:
Yeah sounds like a faulty drive, buy a new one :cupup:
Please stop writing if you have no clue.
then don't quote me, you were given the information by myself and others, do with it what you want. :cupup:
Última edición por ★ ace ★; 6 ABR 2024 a las 8:01
Kobold 7 ABR 2024 a las 10:35 
Publicado originalmente por El Rabito:
Publicado originalmente por ★ ace ★:
Yeah sounds like a faulty drive, buy a new one :cupup:
Please stop writing if you have no clue.
Ace is our heavily active forum troll btw.

If you worry about your hardware and if you want to keep playing this game you have only one choice:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/553850/discussions/2/7599331177361006128/
Última edición por Kobold; 7 ABR 2024 a las 10:37
Tharkkun 7 ABR 2024 a las 10:46 
Publicado originalmente por El Rabito:
Publicado originalmente por Deadlock:

Dude,
your PC is 10 years old, and the hard drive you showcase has 49000 hours of running, that's 2041 days of constant work, or 5,6 years of constant work. It can die of old age anytime.

Moreover you have enabled AAM (Automatic Acoustic Management). If you want for HDD to always run and not go into sleep mode and unload heads, you need to disable HDD drive sleep in Windows and disable AAM in HDD firmware. CrystalDiskInfo can override AAM settings.

These kind of reports are claiming that GameGuard killed their HDD. But you forgot to mention it is 10 years old HDD. And currently these models are sold only on market places for $20. Thats how rumor and false accusations are born.

IMHO all these false reports of killing HDDs are based on lack of knowledge and getting wrong conclusions.

As you can see from the crystal disk status report it's in perfect health.
Zero read write/errors
Zero Reallocated Sectors etc

I never had problem till i played Helldivers!
It came suddenly and doesn't happen when i don't start Helldivers 2.
I know whats a hardware defect and what is a software problem (In this case most likely caused by Gameguard).

If iam not mistaken it only happened after the game has crashed.
But not 100% sure.....

I agree with you that the software side of things coming from SMART is correct. Everything checks out there. You could still have a physical problem with the drive or the sata cable/ power. All those disconnects aren't normal.

I fixed mine by replacing a bad sata cable. It was literally happening mid game. My primary gaming drive so I'd be playing COD and it would crash. I would re-launch it and it couldn't find the game.
El'Rabito 7 ABR 2024 a las 11:21 
Publicado originalmente por Tharkkun:
Publicado originalmente por El Rabito:

As you can see from the crystal disk status report it's in perfect health.
Zero read write/errors
Zero Reallocated Sectors etc

I never had problem till i played Helldivers!
It came suddenly and doesn't happen when i don't start Helldivers 2.
I know whats a hardware defect and what is a software problem (In this case most likely caused by Gameguard).

If iam not mistaken it only happened after the game has crashed.
But not 100% sure.....

I agree with you that the software side of things coming from SMART is correct. Everything checks out there. You could still have a physical problem with the drive or the sata cable/ power. All those disconnects aren't normal.

I fixed mine by replacing a bad sata cable. It was literally happening mid game. My primary gaming drive so I'd be playing COD and it would crash. I would re-launch it and it couldn't find the game.

Unsafe shutdowns were from hardfreezes i had due to overheating GPU, or just stuff like pressing restart instead of shutdown and being to lazy to wait and just pressing power button! Also played and modded a game for a very long time, that was prone to freezing my whole PC. Besides from that the HDD always worked fine without any problems.
Última edición por El'Rabito; 7 ABR 2024 a las 11:29
Kleo ツ 7 ABR 2024 a las 21:51 
Publicado originalmente por El Rabito:
Publicado originalmente por Tharkkun:

I agree with you that the software side of things coming from SMART is correct. Everything checks out there. You could still have a physical problem with the drive or the sata cable/ power. All those disconnects aren't normal.

I fixed mine by replacing a bad sata cable. It was literally happening mid game. My primary gaming drive so I'd be playing COD and it would crash. I would re-launch it and it couldn't find the game.

Unsafe shutdowns were from hardfreezes i had due to overheating GPU, or just stuff like pressing restart instead of shutdown and being to lazy to wait and just pressing power button! Also played and modded a game for a very long time, that was prone to freezing my whole PC. Besides from that the HDD always worked fine without any problems.
Don't mind them OP, they've been running defense for nProtect GameGuard for over a month now.

One of my internal hard drives is now 7 years old with a total of 70000 hours on and still not even one reallocated sector. It's perfectly healthy and it's one of my main data drives so it has written an assload and continues to write an assload. This is a Western Digital drive.

My external Seagate was much the same previously and that one was, funnily enough pinpoint on your number, 15 years old before it died and much like why I started monitoring drives in the first place so long ago now, I saw that coming a mile away when the bad sectors began steadily increasing within a relatively short window.

That is the only drive I've had fail by lifespan, hell it's the only drive I've had fail at all and as much as some people have indulged in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on Seagate as opposed to WD, man 15 years is a run but I digress!

NOW! Funny story right, played the non-Steam NA release of PSO2 back in 2020 and at the time I had no idea GameGuard was a component, a friend wanted me to jump in with them and so I did.

Everything was peachy till barely a month or so later (hard to recall due to the timespan) my SSD just up and ♥♥♥♥♥ the bed out of nowhere. This was precisely the same drive running PSO2 which also correlates with reports others have provided in which their OS install remains fine and they can boot without issue while their SSD that was running HD2 gets bricked.

Best I can recall when I investigated, keep in mind at the time I had no idea about nPGG and just assume it died because reasons, was that it was a table corruption as iirc the disk was still there but uninitialized.

It took this particular event, this new ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with Helldivers 2 for me to realize PSO2 was among the list tied to hosts of nPGG and considering my personal track record of piss poor maintenance while my drives, GPUs, CPUs, RAM, everything, just every bit of hardware continues to run like clockwork it was like a revelation for me.

Something to add as well for reference is that I've played some of the most horrendously optimized video games, more recently Ready Or Not that cooked my hardware to the 85-90C ranges, done plenty of heavy 3D rendering and then also engaged in localized neural network tomfoolery for the past one and a half years now. All of my stuff was stress tested when I bought it and it's sure as ♥♥♥♥ still getting stress tested today.

Amusing recollection as well but at the time I remember similar back and forth taking place on the reddit and other forums between posters which amounted to "works on my PC" to the point it got meme'd hard and so some of the remarks made around here is like some deja vu but then again there are so many issues in the way of software optimization these days that it has become more of a widespread meme by now I'd imagine, I ain't keeping tabs in that department but just a generalized observation.

Anyway! Of all the times I've played video games, that drive running that game running that specific anti-cheat just ♥♥♥♥♥ the bed without so much as a boo.

Guess I just won the lottery in reverse, total coincidence, nothing to see here guys just buy the game, you didn't repaste your GPU, you didn't dust your rig, they'll never remove GameGuard so we should all stop talking about it, works on my PC! lmao

Edit: Just remembered as well but that was also when I started experiencing anomalies with my OS installation. I began encountering issues shutting down in that it wouldn't and would instead perpetually hang until I had to physically force shutdown. This has also been reported by users this time with Helldivers 2.
Última edición por Kleo ツ; 7 ABR 2024 a las 22:36
KingOfFriedChicken 7 ABR 2024 a las 22:45 
Can I ask what specifically narrows this down to the anti cheat blocking your access to HDD and no other factors?
El'Rabito 7 ABR 2024 a las 23:32 
Publicado originalmente por KingOfFriedChicken:
Can I ask what specifically narrows this down to the anti cheat blocking your access to HDD and no other factors?

It never happened before, it only happens when i play Helldivers 2.
Publicado originalmente por El Rabito:
Publicado originalmente por KingOfFriedChicken:
Can I ask what specifically narrows this down to the anti cheat blocking your access to HDD and no other factors?

It never happened before, it only happens when i play Helldivers 2.

That's fair, I went looking online for some solutions just to see what the internet might say as well, I assume you know some of this stuff as it is basic but I'll share what I found and a website with further steps you can always try if you want.

"there are several potential reasons why a computer might not detect a hard disk. It could be that the disk is not properly connected, the disk is damaged, or there is a problem with the computer's BIOS settings. In most cases, however, the problem can be resolved by simply restarting the computer."

Could try thru cmd prompt as well might work?

"Open a Command Prompt.

In Windows 10, press the Windows Key + X buttons and select the "Command Prompt (Admin)" option.
Step 3. In the new Command Prompt window, type chkdsk E: /f /r. (Here, E is the drive letter of the disk which shows the "drive not accessible" error.)"

Also a tidbit on power, have you monitored power flow thru any of the components, I didn't consider this a factor but i saw it mentioned so worth saying I guess I don't think "viruses" applies here though.

"Sometimes hard drives, external storage, and USB flash drives can be affected by viruses or power failures, and rendering drive is not accessible by Windows."
Sabrehawk 8 ABR 2024 a las 6:10 
this game overheats your mainboard CHIPSET not just cpu , and that causes your HD to go offline.
★ ace ★ 8 ABR 2024 a las 7:37 
It sounds like a faulty drive to me, I would just swap it out and see if that fixes it. :cupup:
Publicado originalmente por Sabrehawk:
this game overheats your mainboard CHIPSET not just cpu , and that causes your HD to go offline.

That... is a bold claim, I would suspect you need better cooling if that's happening, possibly a fault in manufacturing, bold to blame the Anti cheat for that.
El'Rabito 8 ABR 2024 a las 10:00 
Publicado originalmente por Sabrehawk:
this game overheats your mainboard CHIPSET not just cpu , and that causes your HD to go offline.

No it doesn't, i checked temps. It's a software issues!
El'Rabito 8 ABR 2024 a las 10:02 
Publicado originalmente por KingOfFriedChicken:
Publicado originalmente por El Rabito:

It never happened before, it only happens when i play Helldivers 2.

That's fair, I went looking online for some solutions just to see what the internet might say as well, I assume you know some of this stuff as it is basic but I'll share what I found and a website with further steps you can always try if you want.

"there are several potential reasons why a computer might not detect a hard disk. It could be that the disk is not properly connected, the disk is damaged, or there is a problem with the computer's BIOS settings. In most cases, however, the problem can be resolved by simply restarting the computer."

Could try thru cmd prompt as well might work?

"Open a Command Prompt.

In Windows 10, press the Windows Key + X buttons and select the "Command Prompt (Admin)" option.
Step 3. In the new Command Prompt window, type chkdsk E: /f /r. (Here, E is the drive letter of the disk which shows the "drive not accessible" error.)"

Also a tidbit on power, have you monitored power flow thru any of the components, I didn't consider this a factor but i saw it mentioned so worth saying I guess I don't think "viruses" applies here though.

"Sometimes hard drives, external storage, and USB flash drives can be affected by viruses or power failures, and rendering drive is not accessible by Windows."

The harddrive is detected, just the access is blocked to it, a quick restart and everything works again.
KingOfFriedChicken 8 ABR 2024 a las 10:12 
Publicado originalmente por El Rabito:
Publicado originalmente por KingOfFriedChicken:

That's fair, I went looking online for some solutions just to see what the internet might say as well, I assume you know some of this stuff as it is basic but I'll share what I found and a website with further steps you can always try if you want.

"there are several potential reasons why a computer might not detect a hard disk. It could be that the disk is not properly connected, the disk is damaged, or there is a problem with the computer's BIOS settings. In most cases, however, the problem can be resolved by simply restarting the computer."

Could try thru cmd prompt as well might work?

"Open a Command Prompt.

In Windows 10, press the Windows Key + X buttons and select the "Command Prompt (Admin)" option.
Step 3. In the new Command Prompt window, type chkdsk E: /f /r. (Here, E is the drive letter of the disk which shows the "drive not accessible" error.)"

Also a tidbit on power, have you monitored power flow thru any of the components, I didn't consider this a factor but i saw it mentioned so worth saying I guess I don't think "viruses" applies here though.

"Sometimes hard drives, external storage, and USB flash drives can be affected by viruses or power failures, and rendering drive is not accessible by Windows."

The harddrive is detected, just the access is blocked to it, a quick restart and everything works again.

You could attempt the CMD prompt thing to see what you get, may not result in anything. Sorry i wasn't more helpful :wftosad:
Here's what they do.
"CHKDSK /F: Check and fix the file system errors on the disk. CHKDSK /R: Check and fix disk errors."

Also I noticed I forgot the link to the website haha dumb old me, I copied some of the solutions so you didn't have to read thru it though :p

https://www.easeus.com/storage-media-recovery/fix-drive-is-not-accessible.html#:~:text=Sometimes%20hard%20drives%2C%20external%20storage,be%20erased%20during%20the%20reformatting.

My only main concern would be it's giving out, if it were mine thats what I would have thought, then again my HDD are big in size and fairly old for PC components so yours may be newer and that's not an issue. Hope you find a solution though o7
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