GameGuard is ruining my computer, please replace it

[God-Empurror of Meowkind]

Multiple BSODs, Driver issues and crashes in other games. I understand you need a anti cheat system but I think this one is a bit too aggressive outside its scope.

Thank you for a great game!

[Kexlar]

Originally posted by God-Emperor of Meowkind:

Multiple BSODs, Driver issues and crashes in other games. I understand you need a anti cheat system but I think this one is a bit too aggressive outside its scope.

Thank you for a great game!

I have started getting these more and more each day, I have played around 30hrs but have had to uninstall the game, and then remove the Gameguard folders manually because of these problems, I won't be playing HD2 again until they remove NProtect. Not had a single problem since I have uninstalled the game and NProtect.

[Nurse Dio]

Originally posted by Kexlar:

Originally posted by God-Emperor of Meowkind:

Multiple BSODs, Driver issues and crashes in other games. I understand you need a anti cheat system but I think this one is a bit too aggressive outside its scope.

Thank you for a great game!

I have started getting these more and more each day, I have played around 30hrs but have had to uninstall the game, and then remove the Gameguard folders manually because of these problems, I won't be playing HD2 again until they remove NProtect. Not had a single problem since I have uninstalled the game and NProtect.

Can I ask what system you have, and where you downloaded helldivers 2 before, on an ssd or hdd? Just to see if this happens on a system basis.

[Kobold]

Its not worth to destroy your PC guys, just install Linux... there is no root access and your PC is safe, come to my Topic for more info's, i converted already many people to Linux and HD2 is running fine there:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/553850/discussions/2/7599331177361006128/

[DocT0r_DoOdL3s]

Keep having similar issues, mostly post new patch. I'll be in game and it'll remove me from the match, and put me back at the ship like nothing happened. I'm never DC'd from the main server, steam or the internet, It just loses match connection. Now after Ive repaired all the C++, removed Gameguard and reinstalled, and tried to run as admin the game just got worse. At best I get 10 min of a match.

[Calv]

Originally posted by God-Emperor of Meowkind:

Multiple BSODs, Driver issues and crashes in other games. I understand you need a anti cheat system but I think this one is a bit too aggressive outside its scope.

Thank you for a great game!

Have you tried running the gameguard uninstaller (can be found in the Helldivers folder) and then playing these other games?

Do the issues still occur?

[God-Empurror of Meowkind]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by God-Emperor of Meowkind:

Multiple BSODs, Driver issues and crashes in other games. I understand you need a anti cheat system but I think this one is a bit too aggressive outside its scope.

Thank you for a great game!

Have you tried running the gameguard uninstaller (can be found in the Helldivers folder) and then playing these other games?

Do the issues still occur?

I havent tried that because I play helldivers 2. But it started after I installed it.

[Urieaal]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by God-Emperor of Meowkind:

I haven't tried that because I play helldivers 2. But it started after I installed it.

It'll reinstall itself the next time you launch Helldivers. But would at least help pinpoint if it is the cause of your issues.

based on literally any popular game on steams discussion thread... i would bet its more that people aren't updating there pc's drivers, bios, or meeting the minimum system requirements.

there of course could be other issuses. it could be a driver from literally any other piece of hardware interfering. thats part of the issuses developers run into is that unlike xbox or playstation the hardware per pc is different and variable instead of stagnant and the exzact same.

but id be willing to bet simple things that everyone with a pc should know are the culprit in the vast majority of cases. especially if there getting bsod's consistently as you could simply look at the windows log and see the why your pc crashed.

edit: wanted to add, you should be upgrading your pc a minimum of every 5 years. that means almost completely gutting and replacing hardware. it can be done on the cheapish for a high mid-range if you self build for about $1,200 usd. thats going mid-high teir on the gfx card, and cpu.

i just built mine 3 years ago? just recently got a new gfx card and more ram.

[Quake]

Please look into the exact same issues with Darktide (same engine), even if the devs would remove GameGuard, many of you would be disappointed. But to save you a google search if you take my word for it, the two games share the same technical issues but not the AC system.

I played Darktide for 30+ hours without any issues then the game would start to BSOD/CTD/Blackscreen shortly after a few minutes of running then run fine for another 30hrs and repeat.

[Tutifrutilandia]

Originally posted by Kobold:

Its not worth to destroy your PC guys, just install Linux... there is no root access and your PC is safe, come to my Topic for more info's, i converted already many people to Linux and HD2 is running fine there:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/553850/discussions/2/7599331177361006128/

"converted".... Is a OS not a religion ffs...

[God-Empurror of Meowkind]

Originally posted by Urieaal:

Originally posted by Calv:

It'll reinstall itself the next time you launch Helldivers. But would at least help pinpoint if it is the cause of your issues.

based on literally any popular game on steams discussion thread... i would bet its more that people aren't updating there pc's drivers, bios, or meeting the minimum system requirements.

there of course could be other issuses. it could be a driver from literally any other piece of hardware interfering. thats part of the issuses developers run into is that unlike xbox or playstation the hardware per pc is different and variable instead of stagnant and the exzact same.

but id be willing to bet simple things that everyone with a pc should know are the culprit in the vast majority of cases. especially if there getting bsod's consistently as you could simply look at the windows log and see the why your pc crashed.

edit: wanted to add, you should be upgrading your pc a minimum of every 5 years. that means almost completely gutting and replacing hardware. it can be done on the cheapish for a high mid-range if you self build for about $1,200 usd. thats going mid-high teir on the gfx card, and cpu.

i just built mine 3 years ago? just recently got a new gfx card and more ram.

I got a I7 13700 and a 4090 with 32gb of ddr5 running on a m2 nvme. Trust me. computer specs aint the problem.

[IronBanana]

Originally posted by Kexlar:

Originally posted by God-Emperor of Meowkind:

Multiple BSODs, Driver issues and crashes in other games. I understand you need a anti cheat system but I think this one is a bit too aggressive outside its scope.

Thank you for a great game!

I have started getting these more and more each day, I have played around 30hrs but have had to uninstall the game, and then remove the Gameguard folders manually because of these problems, I won't be playing HD2 again until they remove NProtect. Not had a single problem since I have uninstalled the game and NProtect.

You are me. I have the same behavior, i uninstall the Game and the ssd is working normal.

[GatoMancer]

Originally posted by Tutifrutilandia:

"converted".... Is a OS not a religion ffs...

Tell that to the followers to the cult of Apple XD.

Silliness aside, GG does seem to cause a lot of problems and potential security issues in Windows. These aren't present with running it in Linux since it's limited in scope on what it can do.

However, to the OP's topic:
You may have done this but do a Steam Game Integrity check. Something seems to cause a few files to get mucked up and correcting them seems to fix many login / crashing issues.

now "what" causes this I do not know, it may be a server side change or something that happens with their update process.

[Dumdoldoor]

Originally posted by Urieaal:

Originally posted by Calv:

It'll reinstall itself the next time you launch Helldivers. But would at least help pinpoint if it is the cause of your issues.

based on literally any popular game on steams discussion thread... i would bet its more that people aren't updating there pc's drivers, bios, or meeting the minimum system requirements.

there of course could be other issuses. it could be a driver from literally any other piece of hardware interfering. thats part of the issuses developers run into is that unlike xbox or playstation the hardware per pc is different and variable instead of stagnant and the exzact same.

but id be willing to bet simple things that everyone with a pc should know are the culprit in the vast majority of cases. especially if there getting bsod's consistently as you could simply look at the windows log and see the why your pc crashed.

edit: wanted to add, you should be upgrading your pc a minimum of every 5 years. that means almost completely gutting and replacing hardware. it can be done on the cheapish for a high mid-range if you self build for about $1,200 usd. thats going mid-high teir on the gfx card, and cpu.

i just built mine 3 years ago? just recently got a new gfx card and more ram.

Thanks for not adding much to the conversation bud. Most of us are smart enough to read the specs and update drivers.

[Kobold]

Originally posted by Tutifrutilandia:

Originally posted by Kobold:

Its not worth to destroy your PC guys, just install Linux... there is no root access and your PC is safe, come to my Topic for more info's, i converted already many people to Linux and HD2 is running fine there:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/553850/discussions/2/7599331177361006128/

"converted".... Is a OS not a religion ffs...

You have absolute no clue what are you talking about.

You can also convert a Partition... Never even used Partition Manager Tool?

Use a language translation tool and type "converted" into it ffs or keep living your life under a rock, its up to you.

[jageriux]

LOL so funny then people say "Destroying my PC" 99.9999% of software never will dmg hardware, CPU to hot, instant shutdown ( Hardware safety build in ) same with GPU, at worst your SSD get formatted, so you just reinstall windows and you good. For BSoD, 99% is windows relate, as on some win patches i get BSoD even just watching YT and nothing else running, until they patch that bug and back to stable. So far never had NProtect problems, its used for quiet few games starting in 2007 that i played. Biggest issue was then NProtect fail update, delete it folder and it will reinstall itself and it will solve most problems. People this days are to fast to jump on hate wagon w/o any knowledge or proof of malicious program behavior. Im running Dell G 15 with 32 GB ram, and sometimes getting black squares in chrome if some games running in background, and i know that is problem with NVIDIA drivers. So you can see there it can be quiet a lot of programs interfering with each other. It can even be some pre-build bloatware like say Allienware Control Center that try's to interact with game and GG acts on it, or other control centers even Nvidia. If you want to prove that is GG, you need clean windows install and just game. If you still getting BSoD then yes its GG. But so far i didn't see anyone proving it. So this is just trending hate wagon. A lot of smoke and 0 fire.

Sorry for English, not first lang.