When will they admit that nP GG is only used to protect their Microtransactions and nothing more?

[LieutenantDevil]

^ Title.

It's blatantly obvious, with EAC being free and GG having amongst the worst reputations as an "anti-cheat", the only reason they would resort to using this is to protect their Microtransactions and nothing more.

EDIT:

Just to avoid further confusion.

I am making fun of the developers for still sticking to this cheap and malicious "Anti-cheat" despite the clear issues it has been causing for some of the playerbase and how it is stopping another portion of it from even buying the game.

They most definitely have the money to upgrade to a more reliable and trustworthy anti-cheat but most likely have not since you know... they're probably cheap af and don't care about the safety and privacy of the consumer. (As any company nowadays.)

[Druark]

EAC is specifically free with Epic Online Services, their may be a charge if it's used seperately from that.

I don't disagree that there were numerous better alternatives than GG though. It really feels like the reasoning was either pressure from Sony/elsewhere or just cheaping out on it.

[LieutenantDevil]

Originally posted by Druark:

EAC is specifically free with Epic Online Services, their may be a charge if it's used seperately from that.

I don't disagree that there were numerous better alternatives than GG though. It really feels like the reasoning was either pressure from Sony/elsewhere or just cheaping out on it.

It's the audacity of the fact that they continue to use this "anti-cheat" when it has proven to be relatively unsafe to use, reports of BSOD's, hardware failures, data deletion etc. This sort of thing should not exist under any circumstances...

It's kind of like the USB Killer that you plug into computers/laptops and it destroys the components inside, used for "testing" and not allowed for malicious intent but you can buy it for relatively cheap if I remember correctly.

In other words, this "anti-cheat" is very malicious and their continued use of it shows that they don't care for the people playing the game, only the big bucks that they're earning through sales.

[Druark]

Originally posted by LieutenantDevil:

Originally posted by Druark:

EAC is specifically free with Epic Online Services, their may be a charge if it's used seperately from that.

I don't disagree that there were numerous better alternatives than GG though. It really feels like the reasoning was either pressure from Sony/elsewhere or just cheaping out on it.

It's the audacity of the fact that they continue to use this "anti-cheat" when it has proven to be relatively unsafe to use, reports of BSOD's, hardware failures, data deletion etc. This sort of thing should not exist under any circumstances...

It's kind of like the USB Killer that you plug into computers/laptops and it destroys the components inside, used for "testing" and not allowed for malicious intent but you can buy it for relatively cheap if I remember correctly.

In other words, this "anti-cheat" is very malicious and their continued use of it shows that they don't care for the people playing the game, only the big bucks that they're earning through sales.

I understand where you're coming from, but be careful not to exaggerate. Those USBs are designed to damage your device. GG isn't designed to damage your device, it's just poorly maintained and generally out of date relative to all the different software and drivers used on a modern operating system and so has numerous compatibility issues with them.

If it was designed to actually brick your PC, it could do it very easily. It's a case of Hanlons Razor, it's not intentional malicious behaviour, it's incompetence/not caring. Probably because they have zero interest in the western market so they don't care about their reputation over here.

As I said though, still not excusing them for picking it, there is many other options available which also offer better protection.

[GioGio「ジオジオ」]

Also the fact that when I installed this game and it was running the setup for game guard, it literally showed up in the top left of my screen in this like weird ass windows xp compatability mode. ♥♥♥♥ just made it feel like it was rummaging through all my windows registry keys lmao

[★ ace ★]

who cares...

[LieutenantDevil]

Originally posted by ★ ace ★:

who cares...

Lots of people who are waiting to play this game but can't because they don't want to risk bricking their main PC (and don't want to buy a secondary one just for one game) trying to play it.

And if you don't care...? Okay? What in the absolute hell are you doing here other than wanting attention for not caring? (Which yeah, congrats, you got it :P)

[LieutenantDevil]

Originally posted by Druark:

Originally posted by LieutenantDevil:

It's the audacity of the fact that they continue to use this "anti-cheat" when it has proven to be relatively unsafe to use, reports of BSOD's, hardware failures, data deletion etc. This sort of thing should not exist under any circumstances...

It's kind of like the USB Killer that you plug into computers/laptops and it destroys the components inside, used for "testing" and not allowed for malicious intent but you can buy it for relatively cheap if I remember correctly.

In other words, this "anti-cheat" is very malicious and their continued use of it shows that they don't care for the people playing the game, only the big bucks that they're earning through sales.

I understand where you're coming from, but be careful not to exaggerate. Those USBs are designed to damage your device. GG isn't designed to damage your device, it's just poorly maintained and generally out of date relative to all the different software and drivers used on a modern operating system and so has numerous compatibility issues with them.

If it was designed to actually brick your PC, it could do it very easily. It's a case of Hanlons Razor, it's not intentional malicious behaviour, it's incompetence/not caring. Probably because they have zero interest in the western market so they don't care about their reputation over here.

As I said though, still not excusing them for picking it, there is many other options available which also offer better protection.

Yeah might not be the best comparison as one is intentional and one is just not maintained well enough to work, but the outcome can still be the same in both cases (the USB Killer being more dangerous of course).

It's a shame the developers picked the shadiest and one of the worst "anti-cheats" to protect their game, kind of like BattleBit with FaceIT (don't know the whole story about it but I heard a lot of bad stuff about it and dropped the game on the spot).

[★ ace ★]

so no one, gotcha...

[LieutenantDevil]

Originally posted by ★ ace ★:

so no one, gotcha... :cupup:

Ain't giving you a jester, sorry broski. Someone else will though dw.

[★ ace ★]

Originally posted by LieutenantDevil:

Ain't giving you a jester, sorry broski. Someone else will though dw.

okay El Duderino, I'm not even sure what that means.

[22nd Shock Division]

Originally posted by Druark:

EAC is specifically free with Epic Online Services, their may be a charge if it's used seperately from that.

I don't disagree that there were numerous better alternatives than GG though. It really feels like the reasoning was either pressure from Sony/elsewhere or just cheaping out on it.

I wasn't aware the being free part was only with Epic online. Helps to know but reinforces the idea I've had that they went with the lowest bidder due to sony mandating an anti-cheat for crossplay. :(

[Glue Eating Adventure]

Originally posted by GioGio「ジオジオ」:

Ah yes, because I was a very naughty boy well over 6 years ago, I'm now branded a cheater until the day I die. Truly such a burden to carry.

stfu dummy, im still gonna say what I want regarding the current situation with this games anti cheat.

10 VAC banned friends, most of them in that U7 group that you're an admin for that appears to be a rust cheating clan.

Mate... you're not just a flight of fancy cheater, you've literally helped organise and lead a cheating clan. It's not like you've tried to distance yourself from that either given it's still sitting proudly on your profile.

If you've got actual concerns about this anticheat, your best move is to not say anything at all. Nothing can be taken seriously, not from a cheater in an anti-cheat discussion.

[IndianaJones]

Originally posted by LieutenantDevil:

^ Title.

It's blatantly obvious, with EAC being free and GG having amongst the worst reputations as an "anti-cheat", the only reason they would resort to using this is to protect their Microtransactions and nothing more.

It's not only for that.

PC games are riddled with cheaters. On average 5% players in the community cheats. There are also griefers who are simply trolling.

Have you ever heard what was happening in GTA V upon PC release? Cheaters were trolling legit players by throwing bags of money on them, making their account being flagged for cheating and potentially perma-banned.

Helldiver 2 was bought by 6 million people on Steam (VG insights estimate). That would give around 300K cheaters in community.
I'm glad there is an anti-cheat in this game. Could Devs pick up a better one? Maybe. But personally after some initial patches I do not see any problems with GGuard.

https://vginsights.com/game/553850

Quick Stats

178k active players (69 min ago)

436k active players (24h peak)

81.1% positive reviews

$200,4m gross revenue

6,3m units sold

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by Deadlock:

Originally posted by LieutenantDevil:

^ Title.

It's blatantly obvious, with EAC being free and GG having amongst the worst reputations as an "anti-cheat", the only reason they would resort to using this is to protect their Microtransactions and nothing more.

It's not only for that.

PC game are riddled with cheaters. On average 5% players in the community cheats. The are also griefers who are simply trolling.

Have you ever heard what was happening in GTA V upon PC release? Cheaters were trolling legit players by throwing bags of money on them, making their account being flagged for cheating and potentially perma-banned.

Helldiver 2 was bought by 6 million people on Steam (VG insights estimate). That would give aroung 300K cheaters in community.
I'm glad there is and anti-cheat in this game. Could Devs pick up a better one? Maybe. But personally after some initial patches I do not see any problem with GGuard.

https://vginsights.com/game/553850

Quick Stats

178k active players (69 min ago)

436k active players (24h peak)

81.1% positive reviews

$200,4m gross revenue

6,3m units sold

Gameguard seems to clash a lot with AV software and VPN's, but that's not unusual from an anticheat software.

I also think it's good they had anticheat running from the start, Helldivers 1 didn't.

[Druark]

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

I also think it's good they had anticheat running from the start, Helldivers 1 didn't.

HD1 did, it was an in-house AC made for that game though. It was fairly good until later in the games lifetime. They only started caring because their DLC was getting spoofed and activated for free.