HELLDIVERS™ 2

HELLDIVERS™ 2

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Helltaker Feb 8, 2024 @ 5:07am
nProtect Kernel / Rootkit level Anticheat = hmhmhm
Edit: I ended up seeing that this game includes a proper deinstaller for nprotect and even though I dont like this, having seen others being able to determine that no dll´s stay within the system files after, I feel a lot safer now installing this software than beforehand. So bought it and gonna have some fun with a friend, but this game will definitely be deinstalled the moment I am done with it ^^

Original: I would love to play this game but only if it uses a reasonable anti cheat software. I work on my PC and don´t have the money to set up a second system just to avoid some third party access to all my files at all times. Please fix!!!
Last edited by Helltaker; Feb 11, 2024 @ 5:11am
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Headinjury Feb 8, 2024 @ 7:40pm 
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jesus christ what's up with everyone ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about anti-cheat do they want to cheat the game so bad?
MattyjRulz Feb 8, 2024 @ 8:18pm 
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definitely agree with the op.

I happen to have an older secondary gaming pc that I don't use for anything else, only then could I stomach installing nProtect.
it's certainly not worth opening up your main desktop to the unknown cybersecurity risks associated with installing a kernel level rootkit.

users shouldn't have to bear these kinds of risks for a coop pve game just to preserve the integrity of a worldwide scoring system and mtx.

if nProtect is ever exploited at your expense, I don't think anyone will be there to help you, you have to take responsibility for your own pc health and cybersecurity posture.
HDRcade[Tyler] Feb 8, 2024 @ 8:19pm 
Originally posted by Headinjury:
jesus christ what's up with everyone ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about anti-cheat do they want to cheat the game so bad?

It's not about being able to cheat in a game, especially a game that's PvE based on repetition and grinding. No one who is serious about playing the game for any length of time wants to ruin their own progression. It's about the level of invasiveness said anti-cheat brings to peoples own data, risk their PCs health and for many the crashes, false reports and instability. It's also a joke when it is being shown that some have already bypassed the anti-cheat getting the high-score on that in-game arcade game. GameGuard and its reputation sucks.
Last edited by HDRcade[Tyler]; Feb 8, 2024 @ 8:20pm
Highway Feb 9, 2024 @ 8:13am 
It's not only about cheating, it's the assumption none of this can be done on a PS5, when it can.... but they dont have to deal with a backdoor app that even if isnt stealing data, could. So remove that crap from the PC version for parity.
Last edited by Highway; Feb 9, 2024 @ 8:14am
CatFlower75 Feb 9, 2024 @ 9:01am 
the anticheat have all acess he want can do anythink stop any app do anythink control user pc deltete anythink is likely a malware acting you run the game and dicord sane time he can literaly close the app if he want to can read everyuser action sinse keyboard action are writed and loged recorded while app is runing is realy a malware acting
Khaylain Feb 9, 2024 @ 9:07am 
Originally posted by QueenCat75:
the anticheat have all acess he want can do anythink stop any app do anythink control user pc deltete anythink is likely a malware acting you run the game and dicord sane time he can literaly close the app if he want to can read everyuser action sinse keyboard action are writed and loged recorded while app is runing is realy a malware acting
What?
Originally posted by Khaylain:
Originally posted by QueenCat75:
the anticheat have all acess he want can do anythink stop any app do anythink control user pc deltete anythink is likely a malware acting you run the game and dicord sane time he can literaly close the app if he want to can read everyuser action sinse keyboard action are writed and loged recorded while app is runing is realy a malware acting
What?

Their English must not be great but essentially the anti cheat has higher then administration level access if someone were to utilize that, they could access your system, delete other apps. Forcably close them, keylog you, it could be seen as an invasive malware. I don't think that is the intention of any company, but this particular anti cheat doesn't have the greatest past from what I have seen so I get the distrust in it.
Sharkle_Bunwich Feb 9, 2024 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Helltaker:
I would love to play this game but only if it uses a reasonable anti cheat software. I work on my PC and don´t have the money to set up a second system just to avoid some third party access to all my files at all times. Please fix!!!

I bet you play many games that have kernel-level anti-cheat but you just heard this one is bad from an idiot and are now regurgitating it instead of fact checking.
Last edited by Sharkle_Bunwich; Feb 9, 2024 @ 9:26am
Helltaker Feb 9, 2024 @ 10:30am 
Heyhey Comment Section <3 Just wanted to quickly point out Kernel Level access anticheat software is not at all in line with what I believe is acceptable in relation to privacy and protection.
Last edited by Helltaker; Feb 9, 2024 @ 10:30am
TheUnnamedStranger Feb 9, 2024 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by Helltaker:
Heyhey Comment Section <3 Just wanted to quickly point out Kernel Level access anticheat software is not at all in line with what I believe is acceptable in relation to privacy and protection.

good thing nobody cares what you believe

does anyone actually have any demonstrable evidence for any of this? all I've seen so far is people repeatedly screaming "rootkit level anticheat" and making a lot of scary claims with 0 backing.
Helltaker Feb 15, 2024 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by TheUnnamedStranger:
Originally posted by Helltaker:
Heyhey Comment Section <3 Just wanted to quickly point out Kernel Level access anticheat software is not at all in line with what I believe is acceptable in relation to privacy and protection.

good thing nobody cares what you believe

does anyone actually have any demonstrable evidence for any of this? all I've seen so far is people repeatedly screaming "rootkit level anticheat" and making a lot of scary claims with 0 backing.

Hey best thing to do is not inform yourself but ♥♥♥♥ on others in the comment section. Wow what style, wow what skillful execution <3 Nomnomnom xD
MicroPiggie Feb 15, 2024 @ 2:52am 
So this is very easy to uninstall after uninstalling game ?
Helltaker Feb 16, 2024 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by MicroPiggie:
So this is very easy to uninstall after uninstalling game ?

https://youtu.be/f_pHllrKmuk

This is a guy who shows how it works and that it works "by default". Good short video <3
Sólyom Feb 16, 2024 @ 5:50pm 
Originally posted by Headinjury:
jesus christ what's up with everyone ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about anti-cheat do they want to cheat the game so bad?
literally just use a different AC, not a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ one that's known to tamper and have a poor reputation

that's what they're arguing for. then there's people like you "DURR THEY JUST WANT TO CHEAT"
Sólyom Feb 16, 2024 @ 5:51pm 
Originally posted by Sharkle_Bunwich²:
Originally posted by Helltaker:
I would love to play this game but only if it uses a reasonable anti cheat software. I work on my PC and don´t have the money to set up a second system just to avoid some third party access to all my files at all times. Please fix!!!

I bet you play many games that have kernel-level anti-cheat but you just heard this one is bad from an idiot and are now regurgitating it instead of fact checking.
probably due to its past history, yeaaaahhhh.
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