Tips or tricks for optimizing FPS

[NightingaleSong]

I currently, run a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i7-10875H CPU @ 2.30GHz, nd 31.87 GB RAM. I can barely get the frame-rate to stay above 25 FPS. I looked online for any guides, tips, or tricks. Nothing seems to work. All my drivers are updated, I have disabled the Microsoft "Gamebar," and tried to squeeze all of the VRAM I could. I play on medium graphics, I dropped the resolution down to 1080, and I put the rendering on for performance. Nothing works. I know a 3080 Laptop GPU is not the strongest but, I should be able to run at 60 FPS.

Any advice would be very welcomed.

[#Plungerhead]

I would check power settings - bit of investigation would also help, anything look out of place in the hardware readings? utilisation, frequency etc....

Edit: are all drivers up to date?

[V4D4RS F1ST]

I would check utilization while running the game and see if anything is maxed out. Until you actually find a direction to go, you're just taking shots in the dark. You still don't even know if the issue is related to a specific part coming short.

[NightingaleSong]

Plunger Head eredeti hozzászólása:

I would check power settings - bit of investigation would also help, anything look out of place in the hardware readings? utilisation, frequency etc....

Edit: are all drivers up to date?

I made sure to check and update all drivers but no change.

[NightingaleSong]

V4D4RS F1ST 97 eredeti hozzászólása:

I would check utilization while running the game and see if anything is maxed out. Until you actually find a direction to go, you're just taking shots in the dark. You still don't even know if the issue is related to a specific part coming short.

That is a fair assessment. I will check tonight and report back what I see. Do you think my GPU and RAM should be enough to run at 60 FPS?

[chulito4596]

I have a 3060ti and randomly get 50+ FPS or 22-25 even on small eradication maps. A 3080m should be more then enough. My 3060ti usually doesn't get more then 65% utilization on mostly high to ultra settings. So I think the game is just poorly optimized. One thing that helped me somewhat though is to ignore the vsync and framecap options in game. They're pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Use the ones on your Nvidia Control panel instead. Though if you say you've tried many of the publicly available optimizations you might have done that already.

[NightingaleSong]

chulito4596 eredeti hozzászólása:

I have a 3060ti and randomly get 50+ FPS or 22-25 even on small eradication maps. A 3080m should be more then enough. My 3060ti usually doesn't get more then 65% utilization on mostly high to ultra settings. So I think the game is just poorly optimized. One thing that helped me somewhat though is to ignore the vsync and framecap options in game. They're pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Use the ones on your Nvidia Control panel instead. Though if you say you've tried many of the publicly available optimizations you might have done that already.

I did turn off the v-sync along with making sure HD2 uses the "High-Performance NVIDIA processor," instead of the default integrated graphics.

[NightingaleSong]

Here is a complete rundown of my specs:

System Manufacturer Razer
System Model Blade 15 Advanced Model (Early 2021) - RZ09-036
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU RZ09-0367CE53
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10875H CPU @ 2.30GHz, 2304 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Razer 1.04, 4/7/2021
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 32.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 31.9 GB
Available Physical Memory 19.6 GB
Total Virtual Memory 33.9 GB
Available Virtual Memory 20.0 GB

Name NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_249C&SUBSYS_200F1A58&REV_A1\4&3B0BE08B&0&0008
Adapter Type NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, NVIDIA compatible
Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
Adapter RAM (1,048,576) bytes


Again, any advice would be great. I have not had a chance to hop on today, been too busy with class work. Please, anything the community may have would be great.

[-=DVF=-De-Guvnor]

I'm wondering if its the fact its a laptop with 3080 and its thermal throttling ?

If you are not sure and want to eliminate it .

Download this:
cpuid hardware monitor
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

Let it run and see what your CPU and GPU temps get to.

If the GPU gets to 83 degrees it starts thermal thottling (it starts at 83 degrees) the Thermal max on that chip is 91 but it will hurt / damage other components in a laptop)

Same for CPU , but im unsure what its thermal throttle threshold is , but it also has a power limit throttle.

These things can be common in laptops if you're pushing it just a bit too hard - some people use fans etc;I don't own a gaming laptop .

If it does look to be either of those things - people get around it with undervolting; which is pretty safe - I'd have a look at that.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/undervolting-a-i7-10875h-with-throttlestop.270969/

[NightingaleSong]

-=DVF=-De-Guvnor eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm wondering if its the fact its a laptop with 3080 and its thermal throttling ?

If you are not sure and want to eliminate it .

Download this:
cpuid hardware monitor
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

Let it run and see what your CPU and GPU temps get to.

If the GPU gets to 83 degrees it starts thermal thottling (it starts at 83 degrees) the Thermal max on that chip is 91 but it will hurt / damage other components in a laptop)

Same for CPU , but im unsure what its thermal throttle threshold is , but it also has a power limit throttle.

These things can be common in laptops if you're pushing it just a bit too hard - some people use fans etc;I don't own a gaming laptop .

If it does look to be either of those things - people get around it with undervolting; which is pretty safe - I'd have a look at that.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/undervolting-a-i7-10875h-with-throttlestop.270969/

Is this is the case and, I downloaded the program you suggested. The moment I launch HD2 my GPU temp jumps to 86 degrees with a maximum of 88 degrees. I will try undervolting and let you know. Thank you for the advice.

[NightingaleSong]

V4D4RS F1ST 97 eredeti hozzászólása:

I would check utilization while running the game and see if anything is maxed out. Until you actually find a direction to go, you're just taking shots in the dark. You still don't even know if the issue is related to a specific part coming short.

Looking at my task manager while HD2 is running and I see that HD2 is using 60% CPU, 6.4 MB of memory, and 96% GPU. Would everyone agree those are regular numbers? There is nothing in my task manager showing a portion of resources are being directed anywhere else.

[アンジェル]

NightingaleSong eredeti hozzászólása:

Tips or tricks for optimizing FPS
I currently, run a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i7-10875H CPU @ 2.30GHz, nd 31.87 GB RAM. I can barely get the frame-rate to stay above 25 FPS. I looked online for any guides, tips, or tricks. Nothing seems to work. All my drivers are updated, I have disabled the Microsoft "Gamebar," and tried to squeeze all of the VRAM I could. I play on medium graphics, I dropped the resolution down to 1080, and I put the rendering on for performance. Nothing works. I know a 3080 Laptop GPU is not the strongest but, I should be able to run at 60 FPS.

Any advice would be very welcomed.

Whenever someone is writing "nothing they tried helped", it matters little if they do not list what they actually tried so far. To give you just a few examples about things people do not try because they do not understand how it might impact the game:

- set shader cache to 10 GB
- set in Nvidia control panel FPS to 60
- increase task CPU priority; if AMD CPU exclude CPU 0 from affinity
- run the game and Windows from SSD
- run in windowed mode + Borderless Gaming
- deactivate fullscreen/windowed mode/game optimisation by Windows
- set power performance mode to maximum
- deactivate integrated graphics card (YES! even laptop mainboards have those)
- use ISLC
- correct Windows default shutdown settings; make sure that your PC runtime is below six hours (use task manager to check)
- increase virtual memory to 2,5x of your RAM
- adjust Windows visual options to performance only
- deactivate Edge startup boost in its settings (since you cannot uninstall that Windows browser, make sure it does not take standby resources)
- use CCleaner to cleanup your registry
- beware of
ASUS Sonic Studio Suite (ASUS)
Sonic Studio III (ASUS)
Nahimic Service (MSI / Realtek)
GameFirst VI (ASUS)
Game Booster (RAZER)
Precision Boost (AMD)
Process Lasso (bitsum)
Lenovo Vantage (Lenovo)
Overwolf
discord
Xbox Game Bar
Medal
those apps are known to cause issues with games, in particular process lasso - if you do not want to uninstall those stuff for whatever reason, you could try making a new Windows account without loading those apps, and see if it makes a difference.
As you can see, there is a lot to try and check.

A lot of players do not understand why setting an FPS limit can help when you cannot even reach that much: it is a finetuning measure which tells the GPU "you need only to go that far", and that can indeed help. But the most important stuff is performance mode and virtual memory.

Last but not least: try a fresh install of your graphics using DDU before making the Nvidia control panel settings. In very rare cases the accumulated update files are so much that some of them got corrupted. You need to tackle that with DDU / CCleaner.

[NightingaleSong]

アンジェル eredeti hozzászólása:

NightingaleSong eredeti hozzászólása:

Tips or tricks for optimizing FPS
I currently, run a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i7-10875H CPU @ 2.30GHz, nd 31.87 GB RAM. I can barely get the frame-rate to stay above 25 FPS. I looked online for any guides, tips, or tricks. Nothing seems to work. All my drivers are updated, I have disabled the Microsoft "Gamebar," and tried to squeeze all of the VRAM I could. I play on medium graphics, I dropped the resolution down to 1080, and I put the rendering on for performance. Nothing works. I know a 3080 Laptop GPU is not the strongest but, I should be able to run at 60 FPS.

Any advice would be very welcomed.

Whenever someone is writing "nothing they tried helped", it matters little if they do not list what they actually tried so far. To give you just a few examples about things people do not try because they do not understand how it might impact the game:

- set shader cache to 10 GB
- set in Nvidia control panel FPS to 60
- increase task CPU priority; if AMD CPU exclude CPU 0 from affinity
- run the game and Windows from SSD
- run in windowed mode + Borderless Gaming
- deactivate fullscreen/windowed mode/game optimisation by Windows
- set power performance mode to maximum
- deactivate integrated graphics card (YES! even laptop mainboards have those)
- use ISLC
- correct Windows default shutdown settings; make sure that your PC runtime is below six hours (use task manager to check)
- increase virtual memory to 2,5x of your RAM
- adjust Windows visual options to performance only
- deactivate Edge startup boost in its settings (since you cannot uninstall that Windows browser, make sure it does not take standby resources)
- use CCleaner to cleanup your registry
- beware of
ASUS Sonic Studio Suite (ASUS)
Sonic Studio III (ASUS)
Nahimic Service (MSI / Realtek)
GameFirst VI (ASUS)
Game Booster (RAZER)
Precision Boost (AMD)
Process Lasso (bitsum)
Lenovo Vantage (Lenovo)
Overwolf
discord
Xbox Game Bar
Medal
those apps are known to cause issues with games, in particular process lasso - if you do not want to uninstall those stuff for whatever reason, you could try making a new Windows account without loading those apps, and see if it makes a difference.
As you can see, there is a lot to try and check.

A lot of players do not understand why setting an FPS limit can help when you cannot even reach that much: it is a finetuning measure which tells the GPU "you need only to go that far", and that can indeed help. But the most important stuff is performance mode and virtual memory.

Last but not least: try a fresh install of your graphics using DDU before making the Nvidia control panel settings. In very rare cases the accumulated update files are so much that some of them got corrupted. You need to tackle that with DDU / CCleaner.

Thank you for the feedback. I hope it does not come down to doing a fresh install on my GPU or in general.

[アンジェル]

NightingaleSong eredeti hozzászólása:

アンジェル eredeti hozzászólása:

Whenever someone is writing "nothing they tried helped", it matters little if they do not list what they actually tried so far. To give you just a few examples about things people do not try because they do not understand how it might impact the game:

- set shader cache to 10 GB
- set in Nvidia control panel FPS to 60
- increase task CPU priority; if AMD CPU exclude CPU 0 from affinity
- run the game and Windows from SSD
- run in windowed mode + Borderless Gaming
- deactivate fullscreen/windowed mode/game optimisation by Windows
- set power performance mode to maximum
- deactivate integrated graphics card (YES! even laptop mainboards have those)
- use ISLC
- correct Windows default shutdown settings; make sure that your PC runtime is below six hours (use task manager to check)
- increase virtual memory to 2,5x of your RAM
- adjust Windows visual options to performance only
- deactivate Edge startup boost in its settings (since you cannot uninstall that Windows browser, make sure it does not take standby resources)
- use CCleaner to cleanup your registry
- beware of
ASUS Sonic Studio Suite (ASUS)
Sonic Studio III (ASUS)
Nahimic Service (MSI / Realtek)
GameFirst VI (ASUS)
Game Booster (RAZER)
Precision Boost (AMD)
Process Lasso (bitsum)
Lenovo Vantage (Lenovo)
Overwolf
discord
Xbox Game Bar
Medal
those apps are known to cause issues with games, in particular process lasso - if you do not want to uninstall those stuff for whatever reason, you could try making a new Windows account without loading those apps, and see if it makes a difference.
As you can see, there is a lot to try and check.

A lot of players do not understand why setting an FPS limit can help when you cannot even reach that much: it is a finetuning measure which tells the GPU "you need only to go that far", and that can indeed help. But the most important stuff is performance mode and virtual memory.

Last but not least: try a fresh install of your graphics using DDU before making the Nvidia control panel settings. In very rare cases the accumulated update files are so much that some of them got corrupted. You need to tackle that with DDU / CCleaner.

Thank you for the feedback. I hope it does not come down to doing a fresh install on my GPU or in general.

In very rare cases - mind you: very rare - only a full Windows format and reinstall helps. It has something to do with the Windows version and how clean you keep your registry.

That is why proper PC maintenance now and then is important, as the PC's runtime matters a lot. Not every game cause the same issues but newer games often create performance spikes - making issues visible other games do not have. Those spikes are a bane to troubleshoot because you need a lot of experience to recgonise them. Like e.g. the tool ISLC - a lot of people talk about memory leak, but not many know how memory leak looks like - and that tool can make it visible and counter it.

I am using it for all my games - it is running always in background and since then no game ever cause memory leak issues again which is not countered by the tool automatically.

[MrFahrenheit]

NightingaleSong eredeti hozzászólása:

V4D4RS F1ST 97 eredeti hozzászólása:

I would check utilization while running the game and see if anything is maxed out. Until you actually find a direction to go, you're just taking shots in the dark. You still don't even know if the issue is related to a specific part coming short.

Looking at my task manager while HD2 is running and I see that HD2 is using 60% CPU, 6.4 MB of memory, and 96% GPU. Would everyone agree those are regular numbers? There is nothing in my task manager showing a portion of resources are being directed anywhere else.

Yeah those dont sound ideal, but is your CPU locked @2.3Ghz? that could explain the low FPS.

Just for comparison I have an AMD5900H @4.6Ghz RTX 3070Ti laptop and am getting 55-60FPS (locked to 60FPS) and have 70% CPU usage 50c, 45% GPU usage and my GPU temps are 75c (though pre todays patch it was 55c)

Games settings are 1080p, mix of medium and high. Native RES, AA on, Textures High, screen space Global illumination off, shadows are set to low and lighting low, space quality low, the rest are at max or on

Your system should be a bit quicker due to the faster GPU and the CPU's should be on a par.
The game is heavily CPU dependant to an point so the only thing that sticks out to me is the CPU speed.

[-=DVF=-De-Guvnor]

With this info :
my GPU temp jumps to 86 degrees with a maximum of 88 degree

It's definitely thermal throttling on GPU and at those temps it wont be long before the CPU gets hot just through dissipated heat.. the fact it hits 88 degrees suggests that thermal throttling is also struggling - that GPU's T-max (absolute maximum before it risks going pop) is 93. You shouldn't be 5 degrees from that really.

I'd check other titles and see if you also go over 83 degrees , if so and they are on really low settings, I'd suggest you get your laptop looked at - this shouldn't really happen unless you set a game to run at an "unreasonable" resolution / settings.

If not and its specific to this title, in my opinion, very little will help other than either reducing your settings - trying to find a way to cool your laptop , or undervolting.

Good Luck!