Good god someone do something about the discord HR 'community' managers Arrowhead.

[David Davidson]

So, apparently "Total squid death"

Kill illuminate. Behead illuminate. Roundhouse kick a squid into the concrete. Slam dunk a crayfish into the trashcan. Crucify filthy illuminate. Defecate in squid food. Launch illuminate into the sun. Stir fry squids in a wok, calamari! Toss illuminate into active volcanoes. Urinate into a illuminate UFO tank. Judo throw squids into a wood chipper. Twist squids tentacles off. Report squids to the democracy officer. Karate chop illuminate in half. Curb stomp egg filled inky squids. Trap illuminates in fire tornadoes. Crush squids in the trash bunker. Liquefy illuminate in a cloud of chlorine gas. Eat calimari. Dissect squid. Exterminate filthy illuminate in the gas minefield. Stomp squid beaks with steel toed boots. Cremate squid in the oven. Lobotomize squids. Mandatory abortions for illuminate hosts. Grind paralarva in the garbage disposal. Drown squid in fried FREEDOM grease. Vaporize illuminate with a arc thrower. Kick old squids down the stairs. Feed squids to sharks. Slice squid with a Yanagiba.
TOTAL ILLUMINATE DEATH

Gets you a 24h mute because it was originally racialist or something. A LOT of things have less than pleasant origins, though we aren't going to re-write the whole English language, now are we.
Well, maybe they'd try newspeak, who knows.


Do these people see racism everywhere? When asked if they used the words "Idiot" "imbecile" and "Moron" in their daily lingo, as these are all eugenics words[www.merriam-webster.com] it's waaaah mute him because clearly they want to be able to use their words, but when a meme is sanitized from any racisms, apparently that's bad, somehow.

Doesn't seeing everything as racist make them extremely racist because race is the only thing on their mind, rather than having a good time?

Arrowhead really needs to clean house of bad apples paid or unpaid.

Losing Twinbeard, the most stable CM was a massive blow. No big loss for me, ohnoes 24h of "be quiet and stop pointing out our hypocrisy", though hiring these people is actively harming Arrowhead as a studio, as plenty of people see it for what it is.

Edit:
The only place AH engages with players is via discord. Maybe via X if you have a large enough following, or are lucky enough to get noticed by the CEO.

Having CMs who throw out mutes for things they don't like, but don't break the rules (celebrating via memes isn't against the rules, nothing in the above quote is racialist as far as I can see "but it was, once, before it became a viral and exploitable meme" is a non-argument) just pushes people away. Why engage or want to grow a community when you have the face of the company actively spitting in yours?

PS: For people saying the quote text is 'genocidal' it is in universe. Have heard "We must purge the galaxy of the alien scum" plenty of times from NPCs voice lines ingame. So that's just part of super-liberty and managed democracy.

[David Davidson]

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Who cares.
Don't join the discord then.
What the ♥♥♥♥ is a community manager and why should I care?
Why do you care? Did one of your masters tell you to?
Just don't join the discord, genius.

Major updates are posted there, patch notes, etc.

Social media, as much as I hate it, is necessary to have a game company in this day and age.
However you don't poison your social media with crybullies who have a power fantasy.

Additionally most of the polls are on discord, so if you want to actually give suggestions (though these are often ignored, even in a >75% vote, very undemocratic) via poll, you need to be there, whether you like it or not.

Additionally the people on social media like discord, are the ones who bring almost every issue, bug report and other item of discussion to the devs. It wouldn't be needed if there were no galactic war, but with the buff-nerf cycle, it's kind of necessary.

[RoosterBoy]

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Who cares.
Don't join the discord then.
What the ♥♥♥♥ is a community manager and why should I care?
Why do you care? Did one of your masters tell you to?
Just don't join the discord, genius.

the discord is the only place the devs actually look at for feedback, and the community managers' job is to wrangle the idiots and push feedback upstream. The community managers are terrible at both (except twinbeard but he's gone now)

[FlavoredYew]

Originally posted by David Davidson:

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Who cares.
Don't join the discord then.
What the ♥♥♥♥ is a community manager and why should I care?
Why do you care? Did one of your masters tell you to?
Just don't join the discord, genius.

Major updates are posted there, patch notes, etc.

Social media, as much as I hate it, is necessary to have a game company in this day and age.
However you don't poison your social media with crybullies who have a power fantasy.

Additionally most of the polls are on discord, so if you want to actually give suggestions (though these are often ignored, even in a >75% vote, very undemocratic) via poll, you need to be there, whether you like it or not.

major updates and patch notes are also posted on steam

[Dwolite]

The AH community managers are bigoted idiots. I was banned months ago for replying to some clown about pride capes with a simple reply: "Just play the game." That got me banned. So, just dump the discord channel. You will never "win" in there. They are facist ban-happy bigots.

[David Davidson]

Originally posted by FlavoredYew:

Originally posted by David Davidson:

Major updates are posted there, patch notes, etc.

Social media, as much as I hate it, is necessary to have a game company in this day and age.
However you don't poison your social media with crybullies who have a power fantasy.

Additionally most of the polls are on discord, so if you want to actually give suggestions (though these are often ignored, even in a >75% vote, very undemocratic) via poll, you need to be there, whether you like it or not.

major updates and patch notes are also posted on steam

Polls about new weapons/items and the direction of the game?
Q&A sessions with the developers?

If those move to steam, I'll gladly leave that server. The players (95% of them) are great. The CMs poison that place.

[RoosterBoy]

Originally posted by David Davidson:

Originally posted by FlavoredYew:

major updates and patch notes are also posted on steam

Polls about new weapons/items and the direction of the game?
Q&A sessions with the developers?

If those move to steam, I'll gladly leave that server. The players (95% of them) are great. The CMs poison that place.

nah the users are poison too, every valid criticism is ridiculed and considered whining and everyone comes out of the woodwork to break rule 2 (dont be rude) but god forbid you do it back to them.

[David Davidson]

Originally posted by RoosterBoy:

Originally posted by David Davidson:

Polls about new weapons/items and the direction of the game?
Q&A sessions with the developers?

If those move to steam, I'll gladly leave that server. The players (95% of them) are great. The CMs poison that place.

nah the users are poison too, every valid criticism is ridiculed and considered whining and everyone comes out of the woodwork to break rule 2 (dont be rude) but god forbid you do it back to them.

I've seen that from some users.
Worst interaction was referring to someone as "He" (which is my default if the person has an avatar which isn't of a female) immediately "Did you not check my discord bio!!! Change that now or I'm getting the mods!"
I state no offense was meant, though I won't be compelled into editing posts on demands backed up by veiled threats.
"Something something "Compelled" is a 'far right' dog whsitle @mod"
Mod comes in and says, "leave it, both of you." I say "that's fine, I'm happy to leave it at this."
Offended person (who must check everyone's bio, creepy) demands the mod do something.
Felt like the mod had no idea what to do, like they were scared of the person who cried for them to dish out some punishment.
In the end it was "Well I can't force you to apologize but you had better refer to that person as a she in future or I'll be back"
Which hints to me that there's a culture within the CMs that is very, very bad and all CMs are beholden to rules which the users can't see.



Though in the armory channels and stuff people are usually helpful for loadouts. I've seen worse servers. I've seen much better servers. It would be better if there were somewhere else for Q&A sessions, or if AH actually did something about CMs who are either abusive, or see abuse when it's just a joke and, given there's no racialism (Just democracy) in the quoted post can't have a laugh.

Or, Arrowhead could just tell the CMs the usual that is told to anyone in a position of power (or used to be, I've heard it before) "You have power over these people, that means you are here to help, not to hinder, you are an ambassador to our company, leave your personal beliefs, politics and petty feuds at the door.

Though some CMs have come out and said they feel bullied on their discord server.
Imagine a cop saying they feel bullied while they're on the job. Ludicrous.

[Cryptic]

So you posted something obnoxious and got muted for it? That sounds fair to me.

[🚛 Akehiko ⬛️💀🟧]

Blood running that pfp is the bravest user on steam

[David Davidson]

Originally posted by Cryptic:

So you posted something obnoxious and got muted for it? That sounds fair to me.

Obnoxious?
I posted a meme.
Read the quote text in the OP, tell me what is obnoxious.

We spent 3 nights killing illuminate, in many of the ways described in the quote text. What about carrying out the work of democracy is extremely unpleasant?

That sounds like dissident talk.

[PhyrixisGaming]

It's not the CMs that muted you. It was the actual worthless mods that did. Every single one of them are terrible in their own way. One of them I know personally, and they use some of the most derogatory garbage even on their Twitch streams.

[David Davidson]

Originally posted by PhyrixisGaming:

It's not the CMs that muted you. It was the actual worthless mods that did. Every single one of them are terrible in their own way. One of them I know personally, and they use some of the most derogatory garbage even on their Twitch streams.

I wouldn't be surprised, the mute came after I asked whether one used the words "Idiot" "imbecile" and "moron" all of which are eugenics terms, basically defining the IQ of a person and their worth based on their IQ but have made it into the common vernacular. Making the point that if the original text for Total Illuminate Death was once racist, it is, at this point, a meme and by changing it we're really just dunking on it.

I haven't seen their streams, though if pointing out soft hypocrisy is hard to deal with, then I wouldn't be surprised that they do use very derogatory terms. Though of course, since I haven't seen it for myself, I can't say they do for a fact.

[Cryptic]

Originally posted by David Davidson:

Originally posted by Cryptic:

So you posted something obnoxious and got muted for it? That sounds fair to me.

Obnoxious?
I posted a meme.
Read the quote text in the OP, tell me what is obnoxious.

We spent 3 nights killing illuminate, in many of the ways described in the quote text. What about carrying out the work of democracy is extremely unpleasant?

That sounds like dissident talk.

Yes, exactly. You posted something obnoxious. An obnoxious, unfunny meme.

Something repeatedly regurgitated to the point of obnoxiousness

[Rumi]

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Originally posted by David Davidson:

Obnoxious?
I posted a meme.
Read the quote text in the OP, tell me what is obnoxious.

We spent 3 nights killing illuminate, in many of the ways described in the quote text. What about carrying out the work of democracy is extremely unpleasant?

That sounds like dissident talk.

Yes, exactly. You posted something obnoxious. An obnoxious, unfunny meme

Well I think it's very funny so it's time to move your unfunny obnoxious and unwelcome opinion out of this thread.

Please see yourself out.

[Cryptic]

Originally posted by Rumi:

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Yes, exactly. You posted something obnoxious. An obnoxious, unfunny meme

Well I think it's very funny so it's time to move your unfunny obnoxious and unwelcome opinion out of this thread.

Please see yourself out.

It wasn't obnoxious at all. I just said that he posted something obnoxious and got muted for it which I think was fair but because you don't like it, you're calling me obnoxious.

The thing that he posted is obnoxious. It is so overdone and regurgitated constantly to the point where it's just ridiculously obnoxious and not even funny anymore.

Honestly, I agree with everything he has said here in the thread besides that. Like what do you honestly expect though? The Arrowhead community moderators are known for being this way. They are completely biased and very much unfriendly to the player base in 90% of the cases that I have seen and heard about. Of course, that's probably not 100% accurate or true but still. It's a well known thing.

If you don't bow down and kiss the ass of whatever politics (pseudo or otherwise) they agree with and all that crap, you're just banned immediately and gone. It's better just to not interact with them at all. Don't put yourself in a situation where you're going to get in trouble for doing something that honestly everybody does which is why I originally said it was obnoxious at this point

I have literally seen people, my friend as a matter of fact, go on there and ask a question and he was kicked out shortly after even though it was a legitimate question about the game. I don't remember exactly what it was so take this with a grain of salt, but they said it was rude of how he worded it and he's like "dude my first language is not English" and they basically told him whatever