Retrieve Essential Personal is bad, and terrible, and bad

[Bozzl]

Now I don't mind an ass map and mode, but does literally every single defense operation need one? It's the only mission type that is awful, but you're forced to play it to participate in defensive missions

teammates never press door buttons, entire map is covered in robots within 3 minutes, any difficulty 5 and up seems absolutely impossible

[Valhalla Awaits]

Yes, they are broken currently, even the patch that supposedly fixed them did in fact NOT fix them. Currently those missions are bugged and for all intents and purposes, are impossible. (Or close to it. It requires hacks or exploit abuse to even hope to do one right now.) It's basically difficulty level whatever you chose +10, mixed with an escort quest.

[Calv]

Originally posted by Valhalla Awaits:

Yes, they are broken currently, even the patch that supposedly fixed them did in fact NOT fix them. Currently those missions are bugged and for all intents and purposes, are impossible. (Or close to it. It requires hacks or exploit abuse to even hope to do one right now.) It's basically difficulty level whatever you chose +10, mixed with an escort quest.

Complete nonsense.

Completing them on 5 or below is a walk in the park.
I've gone as high as 7 which is very tough, but with some coordination and the right tools is definitely doable.

Only issue I've seen with them is civvies sometimes get stuck, but the ones from the other doors should continue to route fine.

[ZuvE]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by Valhalla Awaits:

Yes, they are broken currently, even the patch that supposedly fixed them did in fact NOT fix them. Currently those missions are bugged and for all intents and purposes, are impossible. (Or close to it. It requires hacks or exploit abuse to even hope to do one right now.) It's basically difficulty level whatever you chose +10, mixed with an escort quest.

Complete nonsense.

Completing them on 5 or below is a walk in the park.
I've gone as high as 7 which is very tough, but with some coordination and the right tools is definitely doable.

Only issue I've seen with them is civvies sometimes get stuck, but the ones from the other doors should continue to route fine.

Tanks should not be dropping right on top of the civie spawners. ♥♥♥♥ is bugged.

[Tegiminis]

1-2 EMS mortars. Problem solved.

[BEEP!]

I don't even bother doing them because the rewards for doing that isn't even worth it.
I just play the stuff I like.

[hagare]

I think those missions got retuned in the latest patch

[Userpereuser]

What are talking about guys. It is even 15 minutes mission instead of claimed 40... This mission is broken on deployment level already...

[t3hp0larbear]

Originally posted by hagare:

I think those missions got retuned in the latest patch

I honestly didn't notice a difference.

From what I can tell it's always been the outpost that has the statue in the center that has brutal, nonstop spawns that snowball into complete chaos. The other map is much more manageable, and I can't tell if the spawns are less frequent and numerous or if the restricted sightlines and choke points are what make the difference.

[Calv]

Originally posted by Super Democracy Officer ZuvE:

Originally posted by Calv:

Complete nonsense.

Completing them on 5 or below is a walk in the park.
I've gone as high as 7 which is very tough, but with some coordination and the right tools is definitely doable.

Only issue I've seen with them is civvies sometimes get stuck, but the ones from the other doors should continue to route fine.

Tanks should not be dropping right on top of the civie spawners. ♥♥♥♥ is bugged.

I agree that makes it tough, and personally I'd prefer it if all of the dropships landed outside the base giving us time to deal with them.

But that isn't a bug. It's clearly how they've designed it to work.

[Le Hatch]

I would love for them to have a few different base missions that fall under the defense category, because as it stands, I think people not wanting to specifically do the evacuation mode is why there are so few people actually doing the defense campaign.

[Calv]

Originally posted by Le Hatch:

I would love for them to have a few different base missions that fall under the defense category, because as it stands, I think people not wanting to specifically do the evacuation mode is why there are so few people actually doing the defense campaign.

Agreed.

Definitely feels like limiting the Defence mission types in conjunction with the high target of needing to complete 8 planets, has led to most people getting burnt out on them already.

It's still early though, I expect the devs are learning from this and taking note of how quickly the numbers drop off and will hopefully use it to improve future goals.

[Guts]

You only feel this way because your team is not equipped properly. Either come back at level 20, with 3 friends, or stop complaining. The game wasn't meant to be soloed by a level 10. It takes coordination and heavy equipment to stop bot drops. The flares that you see getting launched into the sky are launched by commisars. Shoot the commisars ASAP or you'll have 2-4 more bot drops every 30 seconds, which leads to more commisars on the field, which snowballs into death.

I see a ton of people complaining about the fact that they can't beat helldive mode, but they haven't even reached level 20, and they don't play with a full team. You're not supposed to be able to do difficulty 7+ without options like the railgun, orbital laser, or recoilless rifle. You're supposed to have at least 3 people for difficulty 6+, as well. You need mortars running all the time.

[Bozzl]

Originally posted by N473:

You only feel this way because your team is not equipped properly. Either come back at level 20, with 3 friends, or stop complaining. The game wasn't meant to be soloed by a level 10. It takes coordination and heavy equipment to stop bot drops. The flares that you see getting launched into the sky are launched by commisars. Shoot the commisars ASAP or you'll have 2-4 more bot drops every 30 seconds, which leads to more commisars on the field, which snowballs into death.

I see a ton of people complaining about the fact that they can't beat helldive mode, but they haven't even reached level 20, and they don't play with a full team. You're not supposed to be able to do difficulty 7+ without options like the railgun, orbital laser, or recoilless rifle. You're supposed to have at least 3 people for difficulty 6+, as well. You need mortars running all the time.

im 25 and if you actually read my post one of my biggest complaints is that team mates hardly ever interact with door buttons. yea, i know what the flares do, sorry if i dont have a 4 stack available at all times, especially with servers in current condition, I never solo. overwhelmingly people seem to agree these missions suck. take your snobby ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ elsewhere, Capt. Ackshully.

[Eshtian]

Originally posted by Calv:

Complete nonsense.

Completing them on 5 or below is a walk in the park.
I've gone as high as 7 which is very tough, but with some coordination and the right tools is definitely doable.

Only issue I've seen with them is civvies sometimes get stuck, but the ones from the other doors should continue to route fine.

Okay, what the hell are you doing?

Now I believe they're doable, but I don't think they're reasonably doable given the equivalent difficulty in other game types.

So, how many squad members do you need, and what stratagems are you using for that, that makes them so easy?

[AngryPancake]

I agree, that the escort missions should not be mandatory in every single defense operation. I just hate doing them, so I dont bother at all.