Wow.....Plas-1 Scorcher disappointing..... they nerfed it to death for Helldivers 2

[Tentacule Un Seigneur]

Just saw a vid of someone using the Plasma Gun...... disappointing......
In Helldivers, it had a large blast radius, could set enemies on fire, and if aimed properly could take out a entire Cyborg Scouting Group....
The one in Helldivers 2 looks like trash in comparison.....
The blast radius isn't even large enough to hit multiple enemies.....

It's like they stripped everything that made the weapon so cool when used right in the original Helldivers..... did the development team hate energy weapons or something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzt0AAsgJA

[Tentacule Un Seigneur]

It was my favorite weapon in the oirignal Helldivers......why would they do this?

[Saurdaukar]

a lot of guns feel underwhelming compared to the original.

[Disorder Minimi]

few weapon useful, almost main weapons are trash. Weapon should make different gameplay feedback, but some GeNIuS in arrowhead made 90% of Servers are 'breaker'.

[Eddie]

Honestly a lot of the weapons feel extremely weak. I think in that god awful Saturday patch they even tried to nerf some of them, but ofc nothing in that patch actually worked. Except for destroying matchmaking

[Tentacule Un Seigneur]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar:

a lot of guns feel underwhelming compared to the original.

True, but this one feels like the worst example, as basically every function it used to have has been stripped from it.
They turned it from a energy based grenade launcher that set things on fire....
Into just a rifle with blue bullets and a 15 round magazine.

Even it's NAME is no longer applicable. It was called the Plas-1 Scorcher because it made things catch on fire with the heat of the plasma....... but the name now means nothing.

[Devast8nDiscoDave]

It would probably shine with multiple squadmates using and focusing

[Pillagius]

The guns have underwhelming almost nonsensical damage and usability:
- You fight hordes of enemies, yet largest magazine you get is 45 shots on very first most basic assault rifle,
- Assault rifles hit like wet noodles, even secondaries do more damage!
- Marksman Rifles somehow have only "Light Armor Penetration" (EVERYTHING HAS "LAP" - it means NOTHING) and don't begin to compare to shotgun damage, despite massive recoil and small magazine size.
- On topic of Armor Penetration - it's not even worth the massive damage drop off.
- Strange interactions with weak spots (I've read somehere that apparently only explosive does full damage to exposed weak spots, while rest does only partial damage) and looking at how much damage some enemies can take, it seems legit.
- "Breaker" is The King, nothing remotely compares.

[Kalenath]

All weapons but breaker are kinda disappointing on any level above Challenging.

[bambuddha]

Originally posted by Kalenath:

All weapons but breaker are kinda disappointing on any level above Challenging.

I finally gave the slugger a real try and I'm finding it pretty good against bots. Good knock back and weak spot damage.

[Nobody watches your TTV]

It has its uses against bots.

It's a lot more effective at most ranges against devastators...etc. than breaker. (not point blank since that would kill you)

Against bots I only wish it had a little more magazine size and maybe 2 more mags.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Tentacule Un Seigneur:

Just saw a vid of someone using the Plasma Gun...... disappointing......
In Helldivers, it had a large blast radius, could set enemies on fire, and if aimed properly could take out a entire Cyborg Scouting Group....
The one in Helldivers 2 looks like trash in comparison.....
The blast radius isn't even large enough to hit multiple enemies.....

It's like they stripped everything that made the weapon so cool when used right in the original Helldivers..... did the development team hate energy weapons or something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzt0AAsgJA

Watch the last few seconds of the video

"For the automatons, it's probably THE primary".

And indeed it is.

[JaCRO]

Originally posted by Tentacule Un Seigneur:

Just saw a vid of someone using the Plasma Gun...... disappointing......
In Helldivers, it had a large blast radius, could set enemies on fire, and if aimed properly could take out a entire Cyborg Scouting Group....
The one in Helldivers 2 looks like trash in comparison.....
The blast radius isn't even large enough to hit multiple enemies.....

It's like they stripped everything that made the weapon so cool when used right in the original Helldivers..... did the development team hate energy weapons or something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzt0AAsgJA

they dont hate the guns they hate players and fun.
They know what would be fun but limit it intentional for later micrtransactions.

[Tentacule Un Seigneur]

Originally posted by VoiD:

Originally posted by Tentacule Un Seigneur:

Just saw a vid of someone using the Plasma Gun...... disappointing......
In Helldivers, it had a large blast radius, could set enemies on fire, and if aimed properly could take out a entire Cyborg Scouting Group....
The one in Helldivers 2 looks like trash in comparison.....
The blast radius isn't even large enough to hit multiple enemies.....

It's like they stripped everything that made the weapon so cool when used right in the original Helldivers..... did the development team hate energy weapons or something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yzt0AAsgJA

Watch the last few seconds of the video

"For the automatons, it's probably THE primary".

And indeed it is.

That does not change the fact that all the effects it had in Helldivers has been stripped....
And compared to the Plas-1 Scorcher from Helldivers.....the Helldivers 2 one IS trash.

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Kalenath:

All weapons but breaker are kinda disappointing on any level above Challenging.

Defender still hanging in there until things get so out of hand the enemy is on top of you, which is probably why people are mistaking "A shotgun at close range" for "overpowered"

Note how many people whining about the breaker being OP are still terrified of using the slow to fire and low ammo max basic shotgun.

[Eudicots]

The only issue I have with this weapon is ammo. It hits pretty hard and can easily kill most enemies, but you'll just be hogging up all the ammo resources.