If you're getting kicked too often please host

[Chair Force One]

Begging the developer to 'fix the kicking issue' when you have the ability to host is asanine and immature to an unbelievable degree.

Why are you asking the developer to work on a fix that already exists?

This game was made for adults, act like one.

[Dr. Jan Itor]

And, you don't even have to admit fault that way.

[Hand's Hermit Permit]

Originally posted by Deep Rock Galactic:

I havent been kicked for days. But your solution is a lie

1. The devs did not copy the DRG system of being unable to kick before extraction. They chose not to, thats their fault.

This. There's no viable argument against this. The DRG system is perfect and prevents a ton of host abuse. "What if people just wait and then teamkill" isn't an argument because you can still extract and win even if someone trolls your lobby and at max you only have to put up with them for 1 game. If someone gets kicked they lose all progress for the mission. You can also just leave. "Just leaving" isn't something you can do about a random kick, because that's you leaving against your will.

Alternatively they could just display the kick count the host has when you hit "ESC." If someone has kicks in 3 digits and they don't even have 3 digits of hours in the game something is wrong and they deserve to have people ditching them. Then at least there will be some way to screen for troll hosts.

[Chair Force One]

No idea whether the beacon works or not I've only used it twice and both times I ended up having teammates rotate through my matches and I haven't needed to use it since.

The lack of kick before extraction, I'll go back to my initial point of 'game developed for adults under the assumption of basic levels of maturity being upheld'. Trolling will always happen regardless but if you're the one hosting that issue is immediately resolved as if it never existed.

I'm personally against a server browser as I believe it's at odds with how the developers intended players to engage with the game. Perhaps I'm wrong and they'll update it later, but I don't think any changes are necessary on that front. I've hosted plenty of games and joined plenty and only had a ♥♥♥♥ kick me maybe three times out of several hundred games.

I've only noticed problems with getting enough people at the lower difficulties (which you can solo anyway) as most people are playing at the higher difficulties; at hard and higher I've had essentially zero issues finding team mates while hosting.
Obviously this is a subjective experience and judging by your notes here you've had a differing experience from what I've had and that is unfortunate but I do believe that the host option clears nearly every issue presented by people complaining about 'the mm needs to be fixed' while the final aspect of the browser engagement is more along the lines of personal design preference and one which adds to the game vastly more than it detracts from it.

I think it would be ideal to see, from the global top-down view, all missions, a difficulty icon and active number of players, without needing to hover each individual mission zone, but I am personally vehemently against a typical server browser like one you would find in starcraft or age of empires, et cetera.

I think adding something that visually varied from what's been presented so far will have people disincentivized to bother with it at all and perhaps just go play another game. The current system caters to the 'normie' crowd which allows a 'get up and go' attitude rather than needing to scroll endlessly for the 'perfect' match, you pick a difficulty and just host one or join one and that's that.

[halogamb]

Originally posted by We're screwed.:

This game was made for adults, act like one.

This should apply to everyone. In your mind, it doesn't though based on your OP.

[VIRUSOID]

Cant fight them? JOIN THEM
START HOSTING
START KICKING

[New To This]

Originally posted by We're screwed.:

Begging the developer to 'fix the kicking issue' when you have the ability to host is asanine and immature to an unbelievable degree.

Why are you asking the developer to work on a fix that already exists?

This game was made for adults, act like one.

Meanwhile, the same people when they host.

"Not enough good players!~ Kicks another~ Why is nobody GOOD joining my game"
~Keeps kicking people~

[New To This]

Originally posted by Deep Rock Galactic:

I havent been kicked for days. But your solution is a lie

1. The devs did not copy the DRG system of being unable to kick before extraction. They chose not to, thats their fault.

2. The devs did not fix MM, leading to even SOS beacons not working. Their fault. If you host, there is a high chance you will be alone.

3. The devs chose not to implement a server browser (again, just copy DRG), so we can communicate in our server name what gameplay to expect, or sort by area or ping. So players are kicked for incompatibilities. Their fault.

SoS work fine.
I reinforce them constantly, funner to save a sinking ship.
I know you're on a DRG crusade, but you need to keep playing this game, your arguments are getting a bit out of date.

[LoboFH]

I am not getting kicked too much, but like in all things in life you always remember the one time an idiot abused a power trip button, not the other thousand chilled persons behaving like adults.

And that's why we don't need tyrants and flawed mechanics in our games.

[Hand's Hermit Permit]

Originally posted by New To This:

Originally posted by Deep Rock Galactic:

I havent been kicked for days. But your solution is a lie

1. The devs did not copy the DRG system of being unable to kick before extraction. They chose not to, thats their fault.

2. The devs did not fix MM, leading to even SOS beacons not working. Their fault. If you host, there is a high chance you will be alone.

3. The devs chose not to implement a server browser (again, just copy DRG), so we can communicate in our server name what gameplay to expect, or sort by area or ping. So players are kicked for incompatibilities. Their fault.

SoS work fine.
I reinforce them constantly, funner to save a sinking ship.
I know you're on a DRG crusade, but you need to keep playing this game, your arguments are getting a bit out of date.

There's a common lobby bug where the game just loses you or thinks you're constantly at 4 players when you're not. And nobody will join your game even if you SOS. If you host for too long in a row you'll probably run into it, it's very annoying and makes you have to unexpectedly 2 man or solo things if someone leaves.

[New To This]

Originally posted by Deep Rock Galactic:

Originally posted by New To This:

SoS work fine.
I reinforce them constantly, funner to save a sinking ship.
I know you're on a DRG crusade, but you need to keep playing this game, your arguments are getting a bit out of date.

Must be my 500mbps fiber connection when noone joins SOS for 20 minutes, especially if anyone leaves

I dunno which of the last patches it was, but I can actually SEE them now on map.
So I can join them, before they were just invisible.

[Chair Force One]

Originally posted by halogamb:

Originally posted by We're screwed.:

This game was made for adults, act like one.

This should apply to everyone. In your mind, it doesn't though based on your OP.

I can't tell if it's immaturity or insecurity.

For a reason I can't understand, many people appear to be very anxious about hosting a match. I wonder if they feel that by hosting they're 'obligated' to filter people by kicking the 'bad' players, but the reality is I've hosted a few hundred games at this point with a wide array of people (builds just as varied) and haven't kicked anyone once.

I have muted several people. Probably in the range of 20-30 people. I can understand wanting to kick people for comms issues but in my mind I'd rather just keep them in, mute them and complete the mission than roll the dice on their spot getting refilled in a reasonable time. Don't really care how proficient a player is so long as there's a body in a suit that can distract enemies, I can complete objectives.

[Ben Dover]

Originally posted by Deep Rock Galactic:

I havent been kicked for days. But your solution is a lie

1. The devs did not copy the DRG system of being unable to kick before extraction. They chose not to, thats their fault.

2. The devs did not fix MM, leading to even SOS beacons not working. Their fault. If you host, there is a high chance you will be alone.

3. The devs chose not to implement a server browser (again, just copy DRG), so we can communicate in our server name what gameplay to expect, or sort by area or ping. So players are kicked for incompatibilities. Their fault.

I played both games, but only as host. Last time I played, DRG had zero connection filters. I could only add ping requirement in lobby name, but players with high ping often ignored it and joined my match. HD2 doesn't have filters at all. Sorting by area is unreliable option, since we still have VPN/Wi-Fi etc.

As for kick during extraction. It's justified sometimes. In DRG too many players started the extraction without even asking if everyone is ready. We were far away or surrounded by bugs and the sellfish monkey didn't care. In HD2, I have never experienced this situation. If devs will remove kick on extraction, then we will see teamkillers and sellfish players. Host won't be able to do anything. To be fair, far too many games are forcing you to accept ♥♥♥♥♥♥ matchmaking and trolls. HD2 allows you to control the situation (at least to certain degree).
I don't know what changed in DRG since I left, but when it comes to extraction kicks, it was not a good example.

[Kane's Games]

Or maybe the community could start acting like adults and not kick people over the most petty garbage, or for literally no reason at all sometimes? Unless someone is blatantly trolling there's no reason to boot them from the game. It's been getting out of hand this past week.

[halogamb]

Originally posted by We're screwed.:

Originally posted by halogamb:

This should apply to everyone. In your mind, it doesn't though based on your OP.

I can't tell if it's immaturity or insecurity.

For a reason I can't understand, many people appear to be very anxious about hosting a match. I wonder if they feel that by hosting they're 'obligated' to filter people by kicking the 'bad' players, but the reality is I've hosted a few hundred games at this point with a wide array of people (builds just as varied) and haven't kicked anyone once.

I have muted several people. Probably in the range of 20-30 people. I can understand wanting to kick people for comms issues but in my mind I'd rather just keep them in, mute them and complete the mission than roll the dice on their spot getting refilled in a reasonable time. Don't really care how proficient a player is so long as there's a body in a suit that can distract enemies, I can complete objectives.

I don't like hosting matches because after one match, the matchmaking breaks and nobody else will join after someone leaves unless I reboot the game client. And even more than dealing with people kicking me for no reason (which doesn't happen very often but still enough to note) I have to deal with people in my hosted games dying 5 seconds into the match, ragequitting, and leaving my lobby with broken matchmaking unable to get any other players. And I've heard this from many people I have played with and it has not been fixed. I don't want to, nor should I have to, go through the hoops of rebooting my game client every time I want to host a new lobby, or being stuck unable to fill my lobby because some ♥♥♥♥♥ suicided into a rocket and ragequit. There should be the option to quickplay into game lobbies and not have to worry about trolls and griefers having free reign to do whatever they want. But that's really not guaranteed right now with the current system and it's a problem with multiple game systems: some flat-out not functioning and others just poorly designed to allow for this behavior.

Also, "maturity" and "insecurity" objectively rarely, if ever, have anything to do with hosting a match or not and I'm confused why you would think they do. This is a video game, not a public meeting.

[Nani Sore]

Originally posted by We're screwed.:

Begging the developer to 'fix the kicking issue' when you have the ability to host is asanine and immature to an unbelievable degree.

Why are you asking the developer to work on a fix that already exists?

This game was made for adults, act like one.

Thanks for helping to advertise that kicking is an issue. Every post counts.