The Adjudicator isnt a DMR, its a Battle Rifle, use it as such

[zdaytonaroadster]

Maybe its how i play, but i have enjoyed using it. I def agree is could use about a 30% damage buff and about 2 extra mags. But use it like a FN FNAL or G3, or SCAR Heavy, its meant for mid range combat, you switch to full auto at short range and it will chew through medium pretty quickly...as well as it own ammo.

I think a lot of people were expecting it to be a pew pew sniper rifle when its not, its also not a assault rifle, its between.

With recoil reduction armor and taking crouch or prone position it's very accurate, even on full auto. Just saying. Keep it a 3-4 round bursts and it will hit what your aiming at, less than 75 meters

If nothing else, it looks neat. Not M41A pulse rifle neat (come on Joel, plz) but neat

[fruhead]

This is exactly what I've been telling people as well. In all shooters, I've always preferred the "heavy damage but slow RPM" guns, and this weapon is exactly it. Especially with my all time favorite being the FAL, and this weapon basically looking like a futuristic version of it. I'm ok without a damage buff, but extra mags would be nice. This weapon and the Eradicator have seriously given me "weapon choice" issues I haven't had for a while.

[Carcat]

as someone who has tried to tell people that the guns they dont like can actually be good, i doubt that people will listen to this. the adjudicator isnt crazy OP, so its trash and unusable and you wont be able to change their mind on that because they play helldive so theyre masters of the game.

agreed though. i think the guns pretty good if you use it right

[BingusDingus]

It doesn't even function well as a BR, it sucks at medium range and it sucks up close. Better damage per shot than a liberator doesn't mean anything if the recoil makes you miss half your shots and the shots that do connect have no stagger. The gun can't even 1 tap a scavenger.

[fruhead]

Originally posted by Carcat:

as someone who has tried to tell people that the guns they dont like can actually be good, i doubt that people will listen to this. the adjudicator isnt crazy OP, so its trash and unusable and you wont be able to change their mind on that because they play helldive so theyre masters of the game.

agreed though. i think the guns pretty good if you use it right

Yup, these people are also wrong. Not me who did a helldive run with the default/starter gear and no strategems, and still clearing all side objectives. I believe they suffer from an ailment known as "skill issue", with the only known cure being a heavy dose of "git gud". I wouldn't call my group "masters of the game", and we were able to get that done.

[Carcat]

Originally posted by fruhead:

Originally posted by Carcat:

as someone who has tried to tell people that the guns they dont like can actually be good, i doubt that people will listen to this. the adjudicator isnt crazy OP, so its trash and unusable and you wont be able to change their mind on that because they play helldive so theyre masters of the game.

agreed though. i think the guns pretty good if you use it right

Yup, these people are also wrong. Not me who did a helldive run with the default/starter gear and no strategems, and still clearing all side objectives. I believe they suffer from an ailment known as "skill issue", with the only known cure being a heavy dose of "git gud". I wouldn't call my group "masters of the game", and we were able to get that done.

yeah i often wonder if those people that only run helldive and demand everyone run the same meta build have ever taken the time to actually enjoy the game

[Chaos]

Bruh, such pitiful damage for that crazy recoil doesn't make a good BR...nor a decent gun for that matter, not to mention the garbage ammo economy, this thing numbers is just bad and even THE BASE LIB is better than this dumpster fire.

Like sure it COULD work if you try hard enough...but why should you?
When there are much better guns that fill the same role out there.

[Delta Dagger]

It feels pretty great on semi auto, just clicking quickly, against bots.

[qwerlancer]

It has terrible HORIZONTAL recoil which makes it very hard to aim. I'd rather prefer Dominator that 1 tap every mobs.

[DigitalCam]

It is terrible. It needs a bigger mag and lower recoil to be viable. Right now, it works like a sniper rifle, but without the damage of one. Great design, but subpar performance.

[Oddball]

Battle Rifle, Automatic Rifle, and DMR are interchangeable terms in video games. Stop.

[Loot]

I'm not really a fan of it. It needs more ammo if it wants to keep its damage profile. Takes a mag and a half plus to kill a Brood Commander, while only landing headshots. Doesn't reliably one-shot Scavengers, even though the Redeemer does. (Not quite sure what the deal with this is, as the Redeemer is supposed to do 20 less damage.) Doesn't kill Hive Guards fast with headshots. Takes most of your mag. I haven't tested it against bots yet. Maybe it's better against them?

[Toriel Dreemurr]

Originally posted by fruhead:

Originally posted by Carcat:

as someone who has tried to tell people that the guns they dont like can actually be good, i doubt that people will listen to this. the adjudicator isnt crazy OP, so its trash and unusable and you wont be able to change their mind on that because they play helldive so theyre masters of the game.

agreed though. i think the guns pretty good if you use it right

Yup, these people are also wrong. Not me who did a helldive run with the default/starter gear and no strategems, and still clearing all side objectives. I believe they suffer from an ailment known as "skill issue", with the only known cure being a heavy dose of "git gud". I wouldn't call my group "masters of the game", and we were able to get that done.

Skill issue and git gud are such brain rot responses now that don't actually mean anything because of how overused they are

You were able to take the default Liberator into a helldive because the base Liberator is the second best gun in this game, next to the Sickle, followed by the Defender. Every other weapon is basically ♥♥♥♥ tier with either very little ammo, very little fire rate, very little damage, or all 3 and they feel awful to use.

[Lyrdian]

Originally posted by BingusDingus:

It doesn't even function well as a BR, it sucks at medium range and it sucks up close. Better damage per shot than a liberator doesn't mean anything if the recoil makes you miss half your shots and the shots that do connect have no stagger. The gun can't even 1 tap a scavenger.

the recoil isnt that bad. I love it, just wish it had more capacity and/or mags

[wirelessfetus]

You can make it work. Just like there's people that make the counter sniper work as well. Doesn't change the fact that these guns have a number of attributes to them that make the majority of the player base want to pick something else over them.

But I think when you start having to take a specific armor set, and use a specific stance, just to get the gun to perform at even an adequate level, you're reaching a bit.

Compare it to something like the newly patched dominator. Having armor with recoil reduction and kneeling/going prone helps with that weapon as well. But even if you're not wearing that kind of armor, and standing, the gun still feels really good to use because it just does powerful things. The adjuicator doesn't.

I don't think every gun in the game has to feel like the best gun in the world. But when most of the community can't find a good reason to use a weapon, that's probably when it needs a little bit of work if they want people to actually pick it.

[Oddball]

Originally posted by Lyrdian:

Originally posted by BingusDingus:

It doesn't even function well as a BR, it sucks at medium range and it sucks up close. Better damage per shot than a liberator doesn't mean anything if the recoil makes you miss half your shots and the shots that do connect have no stagger. The gun can't even 1 tap a scavenger.

the recoil isnt that bad. I love it, just wish it had more capacity and/or mags

The recoil is legitimately influenced by the FOV. It isn't even a perspective thing. People on low FOV will have the circle bounce past the cross bar on the reticule after every shot. People on high FOV have reasonable recoil patterns that don't bounce too far off of an enemy at the same range bracket.