Machine gun Guard Dog fix it or remove it.

[GeforceJoe]

No one uses this, it’s near worthless. It runs out of ammo super quick and plus the laser one is available and is very ideal vs the machine gun one. So why have this even as a option is no one uses it and it’s not even a considered factor in a story for a load out?

[BigDaddyBulgyWulgy420]

same for the ballistic shield, im kicking you if you use that or normal guard dog

luckily, this has literally never happened lmao

[NrSeven]

Originally posted by GeforceJoe:

No one uses this, it’s near worthless. It runs out of ammo super quick and plus the laser one is available and is very ideal vs the machine gun one. So why have this even as a option is no one uses it and it’s not even a considered factor in a story for a load out?

Rover for bugs, standard one for automatons.

[Bill Waggoner]

Originally posted by GeforceJoe:

No one uses this, it’s near worthless. It runs out of ammo super quick and plus the laser one is available and is very ideal vs the machine gun one. So why have this even as a option is no one uses it and it’s not even a considered factor in a story for a load out?

Having such a huge disparity between how they reload(one comes back to the backpack for a bit then goes out again, the other you have to pick up actual ammo off the ground so it reloads) is, again idiotic. We have too many weapons that are useless downgrades.

I don't understand how they believe it's OK to have 4 great weapons, two niche weapons and a sack full of "rofl no."

[kknd]

Originally posted by Papa Delmain:

Originally posted by GeforceJoe:

No one uses this, it’s near worthless. It runs out of ammo super quick and plus the laser one is available and is very ideal vs the machine gun one. So why have this even as a option is no one uses it and it’s not even a considered factor in a story for a load out?

Rover for bugs, standard one for automatons.

Okay, why? Why would you bring the basic Guard Dog for Automatons? Aside from the ammo limitations, the Rover laser model works as well in my experience as the liberator using one.

If it was using a gun that could stagger melee guys, maybe I'd see a nitch for it, but in general Laser simply does the job better in all circumstances of note.

As for how to 'fix' it? Ammo needs to be more generous, needs a bigger engagement range and a better gun to fire. Make it the Penetrator model so it pens medium armor? Go with the concussive for a CC drone?

It's in a really rough spot design wise given how the Laser eat's it's lunch constantly. Let me put it this way, if the laser guard dog got nerfed, people wouldn't start running the basic one to replace it, they'd run some other backpack.

[Ferrix]

Watch, now they're going to nerf Laser Drone instead of buff Gun Drone, because that's how balance works in this game nowadays.

[Pimpin Pippin]

honestly laser dog is already a tough sell because it takes a backpack slot.
and laser dog is actually good.

the bullet dog has no chance of being useful, unless it gets both infinite ammo and medium penetration.

[Jade Knightblazer]

There is the new sickle gun... which the guard dog could use..... Pew pew laser machine gun and blaster beams options.

[kknd]

Originally posted by Pimpin Pippin:

honestly laser dog is already a tough sell because it takes a backpack slot.
and laser dog is actually good.

the bullet dog has no chance of being useful, unless it gets both infinite ammo and medium penetration.

I really hope the 'flamer guard dog' idea pans out in testing, and is named the 'hellhound'.

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by Ferrix:

Watch, now they're going to nerf Laser Drone instead of buff Gun Drone, because that's how balance works in this game nowadays.

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I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I've got as many as 700 kills in a single difficulty 5 with laser dog, and I bet there's people with more. It's overpowered to the high heavens.

[Narvarian]

The Lib Guard Dog is better for damage, it can head shot the warriors in a few shots, kills them far faster then the laser. the laser just dosent stop firing. I use the gun dog vs bugs and the laser vs bots, feels like thats how it was intended. the ammo is limited but it kills alot faster, its nice when you need the bug calling in a hole dead and your in the middle of a reload.

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by Narvarian:

The Lib Guard Dog is better for damage, it can head shot the warriors in a few shots, kills them far faster then the laser. the laser just dosent stop firing. I use the gun dog vs bugs and the laser vs bots, feels like thats how it was intended. the ammo is limited but it kills alot faster, its nice when you need the bug calling in a hole dead and your in the middle of a reload.

Maybe if you have a buddy running ammo packs, yeah. Then you can go full ammo hog build with shotguns and nade launcher.

Otherwise, ehh. Prob better to take the infinite ammo laser dog lol.

[Narvarian]

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Originally posted by Narvarian:

The Lib Guard Dog is better for damage, it can head shot the warriors in a few shots, kills them far faster then the laser. the laser just dosent stop firing. I use the gun dog vs bugs and the laser vs bots, feels like thats how it was intended. the ammo is limited but it kills alot faster, its nice when you need the bug calling in a hole dead and your in the middle of a reload.

Maybe if you have a buddy running ammo packs, yeah. Then you can go full ammo hog build with shotguns and nade launcher.

Otherwise, ehh. Prob better to take the infinite ammo laser dog lol.

that wasnt my point at all, in the time when you need it one clip of ammo from the gun dog can devastate a group if your not just spamming the breaker.

my point was that both have there use, and they do well with there intended use. just because yall dont like an item in the game dosent mean it should be removed.

"if you dont know how to play without the railgun, then you dont deserve to use it"

[Zoopshab]

This is correct. They dont need 2 of these.

Now if they had like and autocannon version for medium mobs and a rocket version for big mobs... maybe.

They dont need a specific one against each faction (bots, bugs). One that works the same against both is better.

[Ghost]

does it still not get resupplied by random supply drops? that was the killer for me, with such a small amount of ammo and you could only resupply it

[(MP) Bud Tendy]

Both rovers would be better if you could press "5" & recall/stow in backpack.
In case off the bullet one you could save ammo & only deploy when needing it.
In case of laser stow it to stop you shooting you or team when in positions where it tends to do that.
In both cases, stow cos you don't want it to draw aggro (Being sneaky beaky)
Yeah not being able to stow them is a huge oversight imo.
Bubble shield should be same, easier spotted when using but turn off to stealth & when in use has temporary up time, requiring stow time to recharge.