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Everesu Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:22pm
Can the MG headshot a Hulk?
MG = Medium Penetration Ammo
Hulk Head = Medium Armor
Is it possible?
Originally posted by kknd:
Originally posted by Everesu:
I did test this myself, and my guess why the AMR works but the MG doesn't is because of how ballistics work with the two weapons. Seeing as the AMR, even though it shoots medium pen ammo, is a far "stronger" round compared to the MG ammo. Maybe because of how the head is shaped or something, idk.

Funny enough, the manually aimed turret emplacement can shoot through Hulk heads, its just very hard to
The reason the MG-43 can't pen hulk heads and the AMR can is that armor doesn't come in 4 flavors. (None/Light/Medium/Heavy) it actually is a 0-10 scale, and so is AP value. The MG-43, while it is 'medium' is near the bottom end of that scale. The AMR is near the top of that scale.

This is how you get 'oddities' like the Senator revolver being able to punch through some medium armor. I really wish the older prototype stat screen they showed had ended up getting picked. Being able to see exactly the AP value on a gun, among other things, would be nice. Also, where my stats for Support weapons at?:raven:
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ZiggyDeath Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:26pm 
Yes.
TheSuit Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:26pm 
There is no G in medium penetration

Railgun + EATS + Antimaterial rifle + Recoiless Rifle + Autocannon
Can shoot the red eye
Baelog Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:37pm 
Originally posted by TheSuit:
There is no G in medium penetration

Railgun + EATS + Antimaterial rifle + Recoiless Rifle + Autocannon
Can shoot the red eye

The MG-43, MG-43 Turret, Slugger, JAR-5, and I just discovered the Senator can all pen medium armor.
McFuzz Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by TheSuit:
There is no G in medium penetration

Railgun + EATS + Antimaterial rifle + Recoiless Rifle + Autocannon
Can shoot the red eye
You forgot the laser cannon you meta slave.
ImHelping Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by McFuzz:
Originally posted by TheSuit:
There is no G in medium penetration

Railgun + EATS + Antimaterial rifle + Recoiless Rifle + Autocannon
Can shoot the red eye
You forgot the laser cannon you meta slave.
Imagine, being such a broken person you call the AMR "Meta slave"

And I say that as a guy who defends it on bot missions.
Last edited by ImHelping; Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:48pm
Super-Oursin Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:53pm 
Antimaterial rifle meta ? Isn't it like... A downgraded autocannon with no backpack ?

Don't get me wrong, I love the AMR, I've payed it until difficulty 5-6, but the Autocannon just do the same, better. Less bullet to kill things (3-4 AMR bullets for bots walkers, 2 autocannon)

As for OP question, if it's headshot, it work... Since laser gun and even handgun work if you shoot them right in the face. Wouldn't be my first choice to shoot them precisly on the face, but work anyway.

Edit: don't mind me, wrong answer. Don't work on them. I've confused them with the chainsaw dudes

With MG, you'll end up wanting to shoot the backpack.
Last edited by Super-Oursin; Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:56pm
ELX-Sevazinho☄ Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:58pm 
No. Hulks can only be killed from behind with normal weapons. Medium penetration should kill him, but doesnt happen, only with stratagems
Everesu Mar 18, 2024 @ 5:04pm 
I did test this myself, and my guess why the AMR works but the MG doesn't is because of how ballistics work with the two weapons. Seeing as the AMR, even though it shoots medium pen ammo, is a far "stronger" round compared to the MG ammo. Maybe because of how the head is shaped or something, idk.

Funny enough, the manually aimed turret emplacement can shoot through Hulk heads, its just very hard to
Last edited by Everesu; Mar 18, 2024 @ 5:05pm
Baelog Mar 18, 2024 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by Sevazinho:
No. Hulks can only be killed from behind with normal weapons. Medium penetration should kill him, but doesnt happen, only with stratagems

It does happen, all the time. I've killed Hulks with both the AMR and the Autocannon by popping their face plate. If it can pen Medium armor it should be able to kill a Hulk through their face.
Shining_Darkness Mar 18, 2024 @ 5:13pm 
Originally posted by Dango:
Antimaterial rifle meta ? Isn't it like... A downgraded autocannon with no backpack ?

Don't get me wrong, I love the AMR, I've payed it until difficulty 5-6, but the Autocannon just do the same, better. Less bullet to kill things (3-4 AMR bullets for bots walkers, 2 autocannon)

As for OP question, if it's headshot, it work... Since laser gun and even handgun work if you shoot them right in the face. Wouldn't be my first choice to shoot them precisly on the face, but work anyway.

Edit: don't mind me, wrong answer. Don't work on them. I've confused them with the chainsaw dudes

With MG, you'll end up wanting to shoot the backpack.
That is exactly what it is. It is an autocannon with no explosion and no backpack, however that means you can take something like supply pack and make some serious use of it. It is by no means meta but is a great alternative if you are tired of taking auto cannon every time (assuming a person really likes the auto cannon)

The big think is they two shot hulks if you shoot their face, just like the auto cannon. The one to two shot everything else minus tanks but neither are good options for them. Where the auto cannon wins, however is it can take out fabricators. The AMR, however, wins out in supporting allies getting swarmed by melee bots since no explosion.
Evono Mar 18, 2024 @ 5:32pm 
Anti material rifle , MG , EAT , Recoilless , the chain lightning gun ( dont know the english name ) and more all can kill hulks from the front
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kknd Mar 18, 2024 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by Everesu:
I did test this myself, and my guess why the AMR works but the MG doesn't is because of how ballistics work with the two weapons. Seeing as the AMR, even though it shoots medium pen ammo, is a far "stronger" round compared to the MG ammo. Maybe because of how the head is shaped or something, idk.

Funny enough, the manually aimed turret emplacement can shoot through Hulk heads, its just very hard to
The reason the MG-43 can't pen hulk heads and the AMR can is that armor doesn't come in 4 flavors. (None/Light/Medium/Heavy) it actually is a 0-10 scale, and so is AP value. The MG-43, while it is 'medium' is near the bottom end of that scale. The AMR is near the top of that scale.

This is how you get 'oddities' like the Senator revolver being able to punch through some medium armor. I really wish the older prototype stat screen they showed had ended up getting picked. Being able to see exactly the AP value on a gun, among other things, would be nice. Also, where my stats for Support weapons at?:raven:
GeforceJoe Mar 18, 2024 @ 5:45pm 
The Rifle Strat that looks like a 50 call will kill a hulk in 2 shots in the front red weak spot
Shining_Darkness Mar 18, 2024 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by kknd:
Originally posted by Everesu:
I did test this myself, and my guess why the AMR works but the MG doesn't is because of how ballistics work with the two weapons. Seeing as the AMR, even though it shoots medium pen ammo, is a far "stronger" round compared to the MG ammo. Maybe because of how the head is shaped or something, idk.

Funny enough, the manually aimed turret emplacement can shoot through Hulk heads, its just very hard to
The reason the MG-43 can't pen hulk heads and the AMR can is that armor doesn't come in 4 flavors. (None/Light/Medium/Heavy) it actually is a 0-10 scale, and so is AP value. The MG-43, while it is 'medium' is near the bottom end of that scale. The AMR is near the top of that scale.

This is how you get 'oddities' like the Senator revolver being able to punch through some medium armor. I really wish the older prototype stat screen they showed had ended up getting picked. Being able to see exactly the AP value on a gun, among other things, would be nice. Also, where my stats for Support weapons at?:raven:
Just more of that 50 point chart the devs won't let us see for no good reason.
Baelog Mar 18, 2024 @ 7:02pm 
Originally posted by kknd:
Originally posted by Everesu:
I did test this myself, and my guess why the AMR works but the MG doesn't is because of how ballistics work with the two weapons. Seeing as the AMR, even though it shoots medium pen ammo, is a far "stronger" round compared to the MG ammo. Maybe because of how the head is shaped or something, idk.

Funny enough, the manually aimed turret emplacement can shoot through Hulk heads, its just very hard to
The reason the MG-43 can't pen hulk heads and the AMR can is that armor doesn't come in 4 flavors. (None/Light/Medium/Heavy) it actually is a 0-10 scale, and so is AP value. The MG-43, while it is 'medium' is near the bottom end of that scale. The AMR is near the top of that scale.

This is how you get 'oddities' like the Senator revolver being able to punch through some medium armor. I really wish the older prototype stat screen they showed had ended up getting picked. Being able to see exactly the AP value on a gun, among other things, would be nice. Also, where my stats for Support weapons at?:raven:

I thought it was a 5 point scale, with the Hulk face plate being 3 but the Charger leg armor being 4 and everything else on them being 5
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Date Posted: Mar 18, 2024 @ 4:22pm
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