Jar-5 Dominator

[DestinedLight]

Anyone been using this and figure how to make this thing an effective killing tool? It penetrates medium armor and has good damage, but it really sucks at taking out the Striders even just shooting in the crotch/knee (medium armor)

[robert.s_a]

From what I can tell...no.

Scorcher pretty much does the exact same job but better anyway. Even if it runs out of ammo in about ten seconds.

[Bill Waggoner]

Originally posted by DestinedLight:

Anyone been using this and figure how to make this thing an effective killing tool? It penetrates medium armor and has good damage, but it really sucks at taking out the Striders even just shooting in the crotch/knee (medium armor)

Yes, I have successfully substituted it for the Sickle and it is now a very useful killing tool. It kills time on the shelf until the balancing department remembers weapons have to be fun to use AND useful for people to include them in their loadout.

Trying to wrangle a potato cannon that needs reloading every 5 seconds is about as fun as eating a barbed wire sandwich.

[A Very Fast And Sideways Subaru]

I found it to be decent for devastators or whatever they're called, the guys with the automatic rocket launchers and also the heavy variants that carry shields and have like an mg or whatever that shreds you at close range. It's decent against them, never tried against bugs, don't think I will.

[DestinedLight]

Originally posted by A Very Fast And Sideways Subaru:

I found it to be decent for devastators or whatever they're called, the guys with the automatic rocket launchers and also the heavy variants that carry shields and have like an mg or whatever that shreds you at close range. It's decent against them, never tried against bugs, don't think I will.

DMR pretty much does the same thing on them though, with better ROF

[Omnipresent Oatmeal]

Originally posted by DestinedLight:

Originally posted by A Very Fast And Sideways Subaru:

I found it to be decent for devastators or whatever they're called, the guys with the automatic rocket launchers and also the heavy variants that carry shields and have like an mg or whatever that shreds you at close range. It's decent against them, never tried against bugs, don't think I will.

DMR pretty much does the same thing on them though, with better ROF

Both DMR variants also do half as much damage as the dominator.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

Originally posted by DestinedLight:

Anyone been using this and figure how to make this thing an effective killing tool? It penetrates medium armor and has good damage, but it really sucks at taking out the Striders even just shooting in the crotch/knee (medium armor)

Aim for the head - one shots devastators there.

For scout striders you need about ~5 shots to the top leg joint to break the leg, which isn't ideal but can be made to work.

Vs bugs it takes out bile spewers very nicely, as well as things like brood commanders.

Vs trash you'll want to just be very deliberate with your firing and mind the sway - it isn't the best in these situations, but can contribute at least.

Honestly it's hard to use, but with patience and skill it can work pretty well. I do think it could use a bit of a buff to its ammo capacity though (20 instead of 15 rounds or some extra magazines with a faster reload would be nice).

[Madjar]

Aim slightly above the head on any devastator (normal, rocket, shield)
Don't expect to one tap the dual chainsword guys (marauders?)
centre mass on trash bots
Face on spewers/warriors/brood/any trash you can

[Diligent Diamond]

I pair the Jar with Guard Dog and some add clear support weapon... Lets me clear hordes pretty easy... Just focus on the Brood Commanders and Guards and kite the rest while the drone finishes it off, or swap to your support weapon.

[Bamsmacked]

I feel like the stat sheet is not accurate.

IMO it doesn't feel like it's pumping out what the stat sheet is claiming, also I've seen tests with guns that do less damage on stat sheet but somehow do more damage than the dominator (per bullet)

I believe the Senator pistol also claims that it does only pen light armor in stats but I have pened medium armor with it.

[Rejza]

Too low penetration for "medium ap", too high recoil to keep consistent accurate barrage, too slow to aim sight, too low ammo reserve and the damage too low for big/medium targets and too high for squishy ones.

Just go with the slugger

[McFuzz]

Too few bullets, too poor handling. It's bad.

[Xirce]

The way armor penetration works in this game is different. Most guns have Light Armor Penetration on them. When you hit an enemy with one of these weapons in an unarmored location, you deal the full damage listed. if you hit an enemy in a medium armored location, you will deal no damage. Now- this is the biggest thing that explains a lot- if you hit an enemy in a lightly armored spot- with a weapon with light armor penetration- you deal REDUCED damage as oppose to no damage at all.
This applies to a weapon that penetrates Medium Armor. If you using such a weapon and hit an enemy in an unarmored or Lightly Armored location, you deal the full damage listed. However, if you hit an enemy in a spot that has Medium Armor, you instead deal REDUCED damage.
I believe there is also perhaps a hidden armor penetration stat, because the slugger, despite saying it's Light Armor Penetration, can still penetrate Medium Armor. Or, what may be more correct, the Slugger really does penetrate Medium Armor but it incorrectly states that it's Light Armor Penetration.
I have to say, the more I play this game and try to get more resources to get all the ship upgrades, the more the game starts to annoy and frustrate me. Knowing how this is how the armor system works is.... stupid.
You could say this is more realistic, and maybe you're right.
It's a less fun experience however.

[VOLUME SHOOTER]

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Too few bullets, too poor handling. It's bad.

feels like im shooting a 5 gallon jug of water

[CRCGamer]

Its got a really short TTK if you actually aim. And its one of the few guns where I'll say you *need* to use ADS to get full value out of it. You can hip fire the Scorcher on the run much easier. But if you actually can crouch and ADS for a few seconds you can rack up some very fast kills with the Dominator.

And as for the armor penetration values. What you actually need to know is the stats run from 1 to 10 so not all penetration of given word is equal. And additionally the bullets can have different penetration values than the base weapon. Which is where you get the medium penetration off the Slugger and Senator because of their ammo.

[Gravemind1]

Its sluggish aim is the deal breaker for me on it. Just makes trying to land precise shots that much more annoying. It can do some great damage, *when* the shots land. Its reserve ammunition is also laughable.