Vote kick pls

[tiredtiefling]

can u replace the kick system with a vote kick instead? kinda tired of being rage-kicked by the angry little host who ran into my orbital and blamed me for it, thanks

[ReapersAAA]

Originally posted by Mystic:

The kick system is fine, except that when extract shuttle is called it should be disabled. As it is in DRG.
It's more of a community problem than a game problem.

I typically host my own games to avoid such scenarios, however, in Helldivers 2 I join random lobbies most of the time. I have only once been kicked at extraction in my 250 hours of playtime, and never midgame to my recollection.

If I am hosting I don't typically kick people but I will do so if they don't work with the team and the game is going poorly because of it. I usually let them know we should work together and if they don't then I'll kick.

So I disagree, vote kick is not a solution and I don't want it.
It will not solve the issue at a community level, just like Darktide removing the scoreboard that Vermintide 2 had didn't make the community less "toxic"

And as a host I will not suffer people who can't play with a team on Helldive and should be playing Challenging if they're not going to at least work together.

100% agree, HD1 we had the kick and then reputation system, where the other players would rank each other after the match. I dont normally kick people unless they are goofing around, and I play 7 and up other words a small mistake will cost you time and stress. I had a session once where this one guy was goofing around trying to climb on the mech, that turned out to be his buddy. While we were trying to clear two nest next to each other. How I know they were goofing off? I had died and was watching while waiting to be called in. When I notice this guy was not really contributing with the his friend, I kicked him and how I know he was his buddy? He turned his mech around and started killed the other random who had just called in a mech to start clearing the nests. I kicked him too......conclusion wasted a mission, vote kick is terrible idea for HD2, it is an issue because COD mentality that people brought over.


Now I dont have issues 95% of the time with randoms, if I see they can hold their own while separated sweet, but half of the time its low lvls joining high difficulty and goes off on their own, and cant do nothing running back to the main group with a massive horde and then leaving. If you are getting kicked alot then you ought to check your self first before complaining.

[vaanomega]

Originally posted by Girthquake:

Originally posted by vaanomega:

But honnestly, i do understand why you would not want those thing to happen, because you seems to be the type of guy that will be banned pretty fast

Yeah, probably, but I don't want it not because it'd influence my ban (I've kicked quite a lot of people, but it was all justifiable and not without good reason) but because it's just intrusive.
I'm the one who hosted, it should be my prerogative to screen anyone who joins me, and kick anyone who doesn't pass. You are so butthurt at the idea of not being accepted that you want those who disowned you to be punished. Terrible, and small-brained.
JUST HOST YOUR OWN GAME or FIND ANOTHER GAME TO JOIN. Did you get your classmates in trouble too when they wanted to stop playing with you? Did the school come in and make sure this boy who stopped sharing with you will get punished?
Pathetic. If you can't stand the heat, make your own kitchen.

Honnestly, if i have a player kicking me in the few seconds in enter the missions, or in the ship, i will be fine with, but if someone kicks me after having done some objectives, they i will take it as abusive
But seeing how toxic you are on the forul itself, you probably have more chance of being banned because of your chat logs than the actual kicking of players

[Girthquake]

Originally posted by vaanomega:

Originally posted by Girthquake:

Yeah, probably, but I don't want it not because it'd influence my ban (I've kicked quite a lot of people, but it was all justifiable and not without good reason) but because it's just intrusive.
I'm the one who hosted, it should be my prerogative to screen anyone who joins me, and kick anyone who doesn't pass. You are so butthurt at the idea of not being accepted that you want those who disowned you to be punished. Terrible, and small-brained.
JUST HOST YOUR OWN GAME or FIND ANOTHER GAME TO JOIN. Did you get your classmates in trouble too when they wanted to stop playing with you? Did the school come in and make sure this boy who stopped sharing with you will get punished?
Pathetic. If you can't stand the heat, make your own kitchen.

Honnestly, if i have a player kicking me in the few seconds in enter the missions, or in the ship, i will be fine with, but if someone kicks me after having done some objectives, they i will take it as abusive
But seeing how toxic you are on the forul itself, you probably have more chance of being banned because of your chat logs than the actual kicking of players

I kick people because they don't have microphones, I kick people because they don't stick with the team, I kick people mid-mission because I need the space for one of my friends. I kick people mid-mission because they talk too much. I kick people mid-mission because they don't follow the host. I kick people for teamkilling, even if they apologize. I kick people for a bunch of reasons. All justifiable. Good luck getting Arrowhead to ban me, I guess.
Sorry to hear you've taken it all so personally, getting kicked from a game must have really hurt your feelings. You do realize everyone paid at least $40 for the game right? But you are special and everytime you are kicked after some objectives it's abusive. Suck it up. Wipe the tears from your eyes, you are a Helldiver, aren't you?
Have you tried hosting your own game, or joining a different game?

[vaanomega]

Originally posted by Girthquake:

Originally posted by vaanomega:

Honnestly, if i have a player kicking me in the few seconds in enter the missions, or in the ship, i will be fine with, but if someone kicks me after having done some objectives, they i will take it as abusive
But seeing how toxic you are on the forul itself, you probably have more chance of being banned because of your chat logs than the actual kicking of players

I kick people because they don't have microphones, I kick people because they don't stick with the team, I kick people mid-mission because I need the space for one of my friends. I kick people mid-mission because they talk too much. I kick people mid-mission because they don't follow the host. I kick people for teamkilling, even if they apologize. I kick people for a bunch of reasons. All justifiable. Good luck getting Arrowhead to ban me, I guess.
Sorry to hear you've taken it all so personally, getting kicked from a game must have really hurt your feelings. You do realize everyone paid at least $40 for the game right? But you are special and everytime you are kicked after some objectives it's abusive. Suck it up. Wipe the tears from your eyes, you are a Helldiver, aren't you?
Have you tried hosting your own game, or joining a different game?

So, you are just abusing the kick system... great! You prooved my point about abusive hosts

[Girthquake]

Thanks for all the armaments during the Revolutionary War, by the way. That really helped shape me as the man I am today.

[Sea Base]

Originally posted by vaanomega:

Originally posted by Girthquake:

I kick people because they don't have microphones, I kick people because they don't stick with the team, I kick people mid-mission because I need the space for one of my friends. I kick people mid-mission because they talk too much. I kick people mid-mission because they don't follow the host. I kick people for teamkilling, even if they apologize. I kick people for a bunch of reasons. All justifiable. Good luck getting Arrowhead to ban me, I guess.
Sorry to hear you've taken it all so personally, getting kicked from a game must have really hurt your feelings. You do realize everyone paid at least $40 for the game right? But you are special and everytime you are kicked after some objectives it's abusive. Suck it up. Wipe the tears from your eyes, you are a Helldiver, aren't you?
Have you tried hosting your own game, or joining a different game?

So, you are just abusing the kick system... great! You prooved my point about abusive hosts

Except, if you actually play the game, these 'abusive' hosts you are talking about are like unicorns. Laughably rare. Toxic people are still rare, but there are way more of them and they should be easily kicked. Vote kick systems have reliably shown to not allow for easy kicking.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by Fractured:

Originally posted by BigJ:

3 people been required to kick someone is not a good idea.
The solution for bad hosts, is me hosting.
THere is no solution for me to deal with poor teamates or someone trolling with their friend, outside of get a 3 party or a premade.

We had to kick an idiot who after been asked 3 times to not extract, kept trying to, we had 30 common, 13 rare and 6 super rare.

This system works in DRG for good reason.

To be a devils advocate. It works in DRG because DRG has a solid, outstanding, and helpful community.

HD2's community is closer to a MOBA.

Also to add, DRG has lobbies where people can clarify what they want. So try hards stick out like a sore thumb. HD2 lacks this, and only has quickplay.

We can-t talk about what community hd2 will have till the trend chasers leave.

We can clarify here what we want with more tools than drg, we even got a map marker and multi marking.

[Exdeath]

This game has a host, so how would it work if players kick him?

[Silverlight]

Originally posted by TheBurtstar:

so instead of kicking the troll you now basically kick 3 people by returning to ship alone just to remove one troll

Any modification they make to host kick system will result in this.

Never give trolls power.

[Dr Bunnypoops]

Originally posted by TheBurtstar:

vote kick is one of the worst solutions to the so called kick problem. A team of 2 join your game and one of them turns out to be a troll and voila your now stuck with it, great idea

So with vote kick, instead of only one person being a douche and kicking people you need three people to be a douche and get stuck with someone... And this is logic how exactly..?

[Dr Bunnypoops]

Originally posted by Girthquake:

Thanks for all the armaments during the Revolutionary War, by the way. That really helped shape me as the man I am today.

LOL, clown.

[Aldain]

99% of the problem is extraction kicks more or less.

Kicking someone ASAP doesn't waste nearly as much time as an extraction kick does (it can be obnoxious don't get me wrong, but the less time wasted the better), when you can waste damn near an hour of a persons time for the luls that's when it becomes a grating issue.

I think that the DRG approach would be for the best like some people are saying.

[Celery]

Let's see.

Host kick
Pros: Host can control the experience within the game freely.
Cons: One person has control and can be abused by said person.

Vote kick
Pros: All the power isn't in one persons hand.
Cons: You have to coordinate to kick, can be abused by groups of 2 or more to gain kick immunity, is not instant due to voting window.

I mean I played last night and a group of 2 joined my lobby with 1 other random person. As soon as the extraction landed one of them started screaming the N word down the mic over and over again while the other started trying to team kill. I instantly removed them both from the lobby and me and the rando took the extraction rewards. In a vote kick scenario that wouldn't have worked.

The simple truth is both systems can be abused. If a player is abusing host kick then you just don't play with them any more, simples. If a group is abusing vote kick you wouldn't be able to do anything about it but leave the lobby.. so we're in the same situation as before but now a host cannot control what's going on in their games anymore.

I've gamed for 25+ years online and I can tell you now, getting randos to coordinate to vote kick event players blatantly hacking can be a chore.. especially the console gamers usually don't even understand/know what's going on.

If you don't want to fear getting kicked then the solution is to host your own games, that's the bottom line.

I also have about 150 hours in Helldivers 2 and I have NEVER been kicked from a game.

[ChibiChara]

I had time for one game, joined a group of two that spoke french. No problemo. This is on Suicide Mission difficulty btw. We drop, summon in some strategems, they're speaking french, we're blasting bugs and we've already destroyed two spores and I've dropped my mech / saved their asses and as soon as everything calms down and we have time to breath and another random person joins, we're on the way to the main objective and....Kicked.

No reason, I hadn't accidently caused any team damage, and I had saved their butts from being murdered by a bunch of chargers though. Killed about 5 of them with my mech.

Really appreciate that I have no warning, or say in the fact that now my time is wasted and what few minutes I had are now being spent making this comment on this thread.

Something needs to be done about the kicking system, its not cool.

[Lunar Fang]

Host your own games, simple solution. I want full control over a lobby I created. Not one where two people come in and I have to get a majority to kick someone whose killing his teammates intentionally.