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Isseus Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:14pm
Is nprotect still in the game?
Not buying before it goes away. No matter if the company is rolling in cash the devs should understand that nprotect only hinders honest players and dishonest players can get around it, so get rid of it.
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Gaz Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:17pm 
how does it hinder honest players? this is a paranoid rant.
Isseus Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by Gaz:
how does it hinder honest players? this is a paranoid rant.

You clearly know nothing.
Saeryfim Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:20pm 
Yes, it's still very much a thing and still very much crashing computers and causing problems. Literally daily my friend has it crash his AMD driver, iCUE, and Discord all at once and then the game. And even though it doesn't crash my computer, it DOES tank my CPU frequently while playing and causes massive amounts of input delay. Which'll swing my camera view way past where I stopped touching the analog stick, or just not register inputs altogether.

To Gaz, they're absolutely right that you don't know what you're talking about. They didn't stop any cheaters from bringing statagems before they were unlocked, from getting 99 of every sample type at mission end, or from having zero cooldowns on statagems. I've ran into people doing literally all of that, and it's still 100% possible if you're running HD2 on a different OS than Windows, where the rootkit nProtect GameGuard anti-cheat doesn't even need to be launched.

The only thing GameGuard has done is ruin computers, literally bricking hardware for people, and ruin performance for those lucky enough to not have it crashing things. If you've managed to avoid having issues with it, good for you.

And as far as I'm aware they've still said nothing past that initial "We'll look into switching, maybe."
Last edited by Saeryfim; Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:24pm
Saeryfim Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:25pm 
Originally posted by jacob&esau gaming:
Yes but if you can dual boot linux then you can play without it
Yep, which just proves how worthless that malware anti-cheat is.
Linyos Torvoltos Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:25pm 
Originally posted by jacob&esau gaming:
Yes but if you can dual boot linux then you can play without it

Nprotect still loads under linux. Difference is that it's not running in kernel mode which is a massive positive.
Khloros Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:26pm 
Yes and it sucks, go about uninstalling it when im done playing for the day.
Asherogar Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by Saeryfim:
...Literally daily my friend has it crash his AMD driver, iCUE, and Discord all at once and then the game. And even though it doesn't crash my computer, it DOES tank my CPU frequently while playing and causes massive amounts of input delay....

Wait, you mean it because of "anticheat"? I constantly have crashes with AMD GPU and no idea how to fix it.
Oddball Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by Saeryfim:
To Gaz, they're absolutely right that you don't know what you're talking about.
Of course he doesn't "know what he's talking about." He literally asked a question. And, yes, it all reads as a paranoid rant when you guys get angry over people asking questions.
spliff Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:31pm 
yes, and it doesn't matter .-)
Asherogar Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by Oddball:
Of course he doesn't "know what he's talking about." He literally asked a question. And, yes, it all reads as a paranoid rant when you guys get angry over people asking questions.

That was a rhetoric question made only to disregard and ridicule opinion right away.
EX01 Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:34pm 
Originally posted by Gaz:
how does it hinder honest players? this is a paranoid rant.
Doesnt hinder anyone? Its a PVE game the only way to win if your personal goals and objectives.
Isseus Mar 17, 2024 @ 5:43pm 
Originally posted by Asherogar:
Originally posted by Saeryfim:
...Literally daily my friend has it crash his AMD driver, iCUE, and Discord all at once and then the game. And even though it doesn't crash my computer, it DOES tank my CPU frequently while playing and causes massive amounts of input delay....

Wait, you mean it because of "anticheat"? I constantly have crashes with AMD GPU and no idea how to fix it.

My friend runs an AMD and he solved some of his crashes by installing the game his boot drive. Other than that, I dunno, good luck?
Isseus Mar 17, 2024 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by Saeryfim:
Yes, it's still very much a thing and still very much crashing computers and causing problems. Literally daily my friend has it crash his AMD driver, iCUE, and Discord all at once and then the game. And even though it doesn't crash my computer, it DOES tank my CPU frequently while playing and causes massive amounts of input delay. Which'll swing my camera view way past where I stopped touching the analog stick, or just not register inputs altogether.

To Gaz, they're absolutely right that you don't know what you're talking about. They didn't stop any cheaters from bringing statagems before they were unlocked, from getting 99 of every sample type at mission end, or from having zero cooldowns on statagems. I've ran into people doing literally all of that, and it's still 100% possible if you're running HD2 on a different OS than Windows, where the rootkit nProtect GameGuard anti-cheat doesn't even need to be launched.

The only thing GameGuard has done is ruin computers, literally bricking hardware for people, and ruin performance for those lucky enough to not have it crashing things. If you've managed to avoid having issues with it, good for you.

And as far as I'm aware they've still said nothing past that initial "We'll look into switching, maybe."

So basically anyone who wants to cheat can just go around it with Linux? And I thought it was already ridiculous...
I probably crashed once. I don't see the big deal.
Gaz Mar 18, 2024 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by Oddball:
Originally posted by Saeryfim:
To Gaz, they're absolutely right that you don't know what you're talking about.
Of course he doesn't "know what he's talking about." He literally asked a question. And, yes, it all reads as a paranoid rant when you guys get angry over people asking questions.

Of course he does know what he is talking about. Have i had crashes with the game? yes. did i sort it myself without blaming the anticheat? yes.

for the record, first time i updated my video drivers, second time i verified my files and re-acquired the 3 that didn't validate.

I will give actual money to anyone who can prove that the anticheat is the cause of their issues.

crashing, and then saying it was "obviously" the fault of nprotect, is not proof.
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Date Posted: Mar 17, 2024 @ 4:14pm
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