Its not fascism, is really democracy.

[Seinekar]

The game is not a fascism satire, if you look at it well.

Its indeed about democracy. You are sent in name of high ideals to fight and die because the government decided so, and you are not forced at all, you just go there because you buy the stuff about being a hero, doing your part, making a difference, etc.

If the game ressembles something, is not fascism at all. Its very similar to most western democratic countries today, and clearly inspired on the USA patriotism and "freedom" mainly.

So when the games goes playing jokes about democracy... its actually no joke. thats how democracies work. Selling the individuals cool stories about duty, defending higher goods and whatever. You don´t need to look at fascism, comunism, monarchy or any authoritarian or "evil" system as to figure out from where helldivers is getting its inspiration.

Superearth government and helldivers are not a mockery of fascism. It is indeed showing clearly how real democratic countries do to send people willingly and proudly into wars for whatever reason.

Hell, helldivers is not even being exagerated, real military propaganda of most western, democratic-labeled countries, uses exactly the same kind of arguments and have the same vibes (patriotism, doing the grater good, becoming a better yourself, serving the greater cause, defending what is loved from external dangers...)

So, as said. HD2 fits perfectly on what nowadays we call democracy, so trying to see it as a satire of fascism, imperalism or whatever is totally unneeded.

[Average Democracy Enjoyer]

pew pew bugs ded lmao

[K3NSAI]

It's a friggin game, it's not that deep.
You have an assortment of guns and gadgets to kill bugs and robots. Duty is to kill bugs and robots. End of story.

[cinless]

This person is SO CLOSE to having a real epiphany about the nature of western democracy.

[Average Democracy Enjoyer]

Originally posted by cinless:

This person is SO CLOSE to having a real epiphany about the nature of western democracy.

Sush! don't tell him mate! it can be a big shock for him, let the lad walk his own walk

[Blackout4711]

I'm not gonna lie I'm not reading any of this after the first 2 sentences. I just came here to say this isn't Twitter

[hi friends]

Originally posted by Blackout4711:

I'm not gonna lie I'm not reading any of this after the first 2 sentences. I just came here to say this isn't Twitter

you are right it isn't.... /s

[[SCZ]Celestrian]

Originally posted by Seinekar:

The game is not a fascism satire, if you look at it well.

helldivers: military service is optional

worst fascism ever

[FrostyShock]

Originally posted by Lichlord9333:

Originally posted by Anarchy:

The same can also be said for marxist regimes

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It's almost like......
They're not the only ones who can be militaristic???
(The only difference is really that they believe in social hierarchy and use tyranny to try and change the nature of man as per their own literature whereas the philosophy in fascism and nazism are similar but different in reasoning)

(This definition is also likely using one of the redefinitions that completely ignore what Fascism actually was, lol)

This is why I prefer the definition from Mussolini himself. “Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.” It was born from the beliefs that liberal democracy failed but the communist solution is wrong. Even though both ideologies end up being the same where the state becomes a defacto "god" over it's people.

The term Fascism is def overused and debased to the point where it is becoming meaningless.

fascism is also poorly defined too and too many people are using it as a growing cudgel as an automatic win button to silence people

[Chimpson]

Spot on with your take on this sir.

That the first trailer of joining super earth have obvious "current thing" stuff in it just proves the point even more.

The real world version of spreading Democracy:

Lets bomb entire countries and give medals to those that kills most of the ones that dare to attempt to defend themselves, for Democracy!

Lets kill droves of farmers desperately defending their lands and way of life against an invading force from a country on the other side of the world that they never even heard of before, For Democracy!

And the latest one,
Lets support sending massive shipments of weapons and war machines to an active warzone and verbally attack and gaslight everyone that try to look at the conflict from both sides and encourage that the warring factions meet halfway and stop fighting, FOR DEMOCRACY.

If I get banned for "politics" again then I guess it is because I was a great threat to OUR DEMOCRACY(Say it x100 aka sinclair broadcast)

Socrates tried to tell people about the absurdity of the overall idea of "democracy" but seems like it fell on deaf and stupid ears...

[zepehphor]

does it matter? the bugs are a mindlessly spreading horde, and the bots mass execute people in cages or on weird altars.

[Chimpson]

The current political system(democracy) seems to be a game of:
The one who has the lowest level of empathy and is the most manipulative person wins(Demagogue) and gets to "govern" for a term or two, Govern means doing what the political lobby group with the highest level of influence in said country tells him to do.
Democracy!

I hope more games follow helldivers 2 in this kind of "satire" so people can see how absurd it really is.

[♥♥♥]

leftoids couldn't cope with game's true message so they made up a straw man about fascism

[Echo2Omega]

Originally posted by Jigger owner TTV:

leftoids couldn't cope with game's true message so they made up a straw man about fascism

At least they didn't attempt and fail a coup

[Franzosisch]

Originally posted by Vespertellino:

Originally posted by Anarchy:

The ppl the politics addicted people are saying this game parodies are actually so dumb because they don't realize it's parodying them too in a lot of ways since they're the only ones who ever say "Well I'm on the RIGHT side of history" which is an actual quote from the game lmfao.

A lot of people also don't realize Fascism =/= authoritarianism and are usually using redefinitions of Fascism that are so broad literally anything can be called fascism

And they don't know the differences or functions of fascism vs nazism at all but always conflate the two
They're definitely similar in some aspects, and both completely garbage just like marxism, but hey!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a
* dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy
* militarism
* forcible suppression of opposition
* belief in a natural social hierarchy
* subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race
* strong regimentation of society and the economy

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Name one of these that doesn't fit Super Earth

That definition doesn't really say what fascism is though. It's a bunch of traits that can or can't be representative of it but not what it actually is.

[R-e-lax]

Helldivers is the logical conclusion of a liberal system, something along the line of the European Union.