40% CPU usage, 20% GPU usage, 30 FPS in game. Please help

[Shiva]

40% CPU usage, 20% GPU usage, 30 FPS in game. Please help

Trying to run with medium-low settings, 2560/1440 resolution but sit at 30-34fps in game...

Specs:
GTX 1070
Ryzen 7 5700G (3.8GHz 8 core)

[TuskSpin]

The game is very cpu demanding, but a 5700g should NOT be bottlenecking the 1070, especially at 1440p. The performance sounds about right though, which leads me to believe whatever program you're using is giving you bad feedback

[TuskSpin]

Publicado originalmente por Eagle_of_Fire:

Publicado originalmente por Falku:

It is just how the games/engines are programmed, nothing you can do about it.

5700g has what 8 cores?
if
Core 0 @ 100%
Core 1 @ 100%
Core 2 @ 0%
Core 3 @ 0%
..
Core 7 @ 0%

Averaged out it'll average out to 25%

From what I gather, the game is also CPU intensive.
GPU could be waiting for instructions.
GPU limited by VRAM + bus size being GDDR5 modules. (despite a lot of GPUs still having 8gb VRAM they're on GDDR6x

I have been saying (and fighting clueless people) about this for over a decade now. This is why I choose my gaming computer to have a little an amount of core as possible when I got it because my preferred genre is strategy/simulation. A few years ago I tested it against brand new computers on very CPU heavy games and still got more performance in game.

More cores = less performance but more multitasking. Less cores = more performance but slowdowns if you run a lot of ♥♥♥♥ at the same time.

That is not how CPUs work...

[A Lamp]

Publicado originalmente por TuskSpin:

Publicado originalmente por Eagle_of_Fire:

I have been saying (and fighting clueless people) about this for over a decade now. This is why I choose my gaming computer to have a little an amount of core as possible when I got it because my preferred genre is strategy/simulation. A few years ago I tested it against brand new computers on very CPU heavy games and still got more performance in game.

More cores = less performance but more multitasking. Less cores = more performance but slowdowns if you run a lot of ♥♥♥♥ at the same time.

That is not how CPUs work...

His superiority has been proved countless times I wouldn’t question him

[xXSznipaXx]

For troubleshooting purposes try putting the render scale (FSR1) to performance or ultra performance. If your FPS goes up significantly time to upgrade you 1070. This is a demanding modern title.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Publicado originalmente por TuskSpin:

Publicado originalmente por Eagle_of_Fire:

I have been saying (and fighting clueless people) about this for over a decade now. This is why I choose my gaming computer to have a little an amount of core as possible when I got it because my preferred genre is strategy/simulation. A few years ago I tested it against brand new computers on very CPU heavy games and still got more performance in game.

More cores = less performance but more multitasking. Less cores = more performance but slowdowns if you run a lot of ♥♥♥♥ at the same time.

That is not how CPUs work...

Once you realise that 95% of every software ever is not optimized for multi core operations then you understand that's how it works.

The only real advantage of having more cores is that Windows can run more things by itself without interfering with eachother. But like it was already stated, if you try to run anything which is not programmed specially to be multi-core then you are only using a fraction of your CPU to run it at any given time. Old software only use one core at a time.

That's certainly not how salesmen sell you your computers but that's exactly how it works.

[[💩]ImWeTodd-Ded]

1440p on a old gpu.......

[A Lamp]

Publicado originalmente por Eagle_of_Fire:

Publicado originalmente por TuskSpin:

That is not how CPUs work...

Once you realise that 95% of every software ever is not optimized for multi core operations then you understand that's how it works.

The only real advantage of having more cores is that Windows can run more things by itself without interfering with eachother. But like it was already stated, if you try to run anything which is not programmed specially to be multi-core then you are only using a fraction of your CPU to run it at any given time. Old software only use one core at a time.

That's certainly not how salesmen sell you your computers but that's exactly how it works.

ur stating unrelated factual information in a discussion about a 2024 game. This is about game performance, not random desktop applications that require infinitely less algorithmic complexion than a game. Get over ur 3rd divorce and go back to the books. You have the arrogance of a New England prep kid with the intelligence of a rock

Edit: needed to add this in. This post will tell you all you need to know about this guys comprehension level
“ People are already whining that the game is too CPU heavy. Better AI go hand in hand with an exponential in CPU power. Thus, sadly don't think this is going to happen. “
the logic is stronk w this orc sire

[Major BongBreath]

Boil it. mash it, and stick it in a a stew.

[TuskSpin]

Publicado originalmente por Eagle_of_Fire:

Publicado originalmente por TuskSpin:

That is not how CPUs work...

Once you realise that 95% of every software ever is not optimized for multi core operations then you understand that's how it works.

The only real advantage of having more cores is that Windows can run more things by itself without interfering with eachother. But like it was already stated, if you try to run anything which is not programmed specially to be multi-core then you are only using a fraction of your CPU to run it at any given time. Old software only use one core at a time.

That's certainly not how salesmen sell you your computers but that's exactly how it works.

Not using it won't hurt your performance

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Publicado originalmente por TuskSpin:

Publicado originalmente por Eagle_of_Fire:

Once you realise that 95% of every software ever is not optimized for multi core operations then you understand that's how it works.

The only real advantage of having more cores is that Windows can run more things by itself without interfering with eachother. But like it was already stated, if you try to run anything which is not programmed specially to be multi-core then you are only using a fraction of your CPU to run it at any given time. Old software only use one core at a time.

That's certainly not how salesmen sell you your computers but that's exactly how it works.

Not using it won't hurt your performance

Until you are CPU bottlenecked and you don't understand how or why.

[A Lamp]

Publicado originalmente por Eagle_of_Fire:

Publicado originalmente por TuskSpin:

Not using it won't hurt your performance

Until you are CPU bottlenecked and you don't understand how or why.

Can other tech savvy people please contribute to breaking down the limitless ego of this cave dweller

[SnowMew]

Noone seemed to have mentioned this. But dont use Windows Task Managers performance tab for an accurate readout of GPU utilization. It's usually always incorrect (Even in Windows 11).

My 3070 reports its only 60% utilized in the Taskmanager. OHM/GPU-Z/HWinfo shows 90%+.

[TuskSpin]

Publicado originalmente por Eagle_of_Fire:

Publicado originalmente por TuskSpin:

Not using it won't hurt your performance

Until you are CPU bottlenecked and you don't understand how or why.

The how and why is simple, your cpu is weak. If the game isn't optimized for multi threaded workloads, adding more cores won't help, but it won't hamper performance either. The only exception to this rule seems to be with big/little core clusters, which is the fault of programs not knowing whether to use the big or little cores. Core clusters with matching cores do not have this problem. I bring this up because it's the only possible explanation I could come up with for your confusion. That or you're comparing 2 completely different cpu architectures, and I want to have more faith in you than that...

[TuskSpin]

Publicado originalmente por SnowMew:

Noone seemed to have mentioned this. But dont use Windows Task Managers performance tab for an accurate readout of GPU utilization. It's usually always incorrect (Even in Windows 11).

My 3070 reports its only 60% utilized in the Taskmanager. OHM/GPU-Z/HWinfo shows 90%+.

This applies to just about all game. Nvidia perf overlay will report 100% usage while windows task manager reports less than half. Very unreliable!

[Bob the Boomer]

Publicado originalmente por Toweliewahn:

use "GeForce Experience" to configure your game.

Please no, do not do that.

GF experience only adds to problems especially if the user does not remember the change or know what changes are made.