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The new Laser rifle is lazy design
i like it as a whole, its a good weapon, but the design is lazy af its basicly jsut reskinned assault rifle, it shoots projectiles instead of short beams like in fallout, which is quite sad
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YippeeKai-Yay Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:00pm 
Just like how this thread is lazy
RedShirt Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:00pm 
True, a pulse laser would have been a lot cooler.
It will be my go to anyway, but you are right.
Dakota Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:03pm 
Originally posted by RedShirt:
True, a pulse laser would have been a lot cooler.
It will be my go to anyway, but you are right.

Yeah this
Katitoff Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:11pm 
And new punisher is reskinned grenade launcher that can't close holes.

Just enjoy the weapon if you like it, or don't.

Sickly is literally energy liberator.
Urmanin Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:11pm 
It's literally the same gun as 1 except it sounds like the machinegun for some reason.
Originally posted by Urmanin:
It's literally the same gun as 1 except it sounds like the machinegun for some reason.

What this guy said.

It's a gun from the first game but with weird sound changes because everything has to sound like it's ballistic now?
Levaneron Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:16pm 
I feel like you are missing something here, it's not about being a reskinned assault rifle, it's about giving players opportunities to use what they want and feel good about it. Saying it's just a reskinned assault rifle is like saying every gun in Star Wars is the same gun reskinned, or that every real weapon is just a reskinned machine gun or pistol. You don't seem to understand the differences. Find me a gun in this game where you can fire 3,000 shots without reloading in one mission. Because the sickle can do that. That's not a reskinned assault rifle. Also find me a machine gun with negligible recoil and zero damage fall off. Fallout laser guns have recoil, why don't you compare that mechanic instead of something entirely cosmetic. There's so many community discussions about how bad the laser guns are in Fallout for many reasons. So comparing these laser guns to them is a poor choice.
Levaneron Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:19pm 
Originally posted by Fluffy Monster Thing:
Originally posted by Urmanin:
It's literally the same gun as 1 except it sounds like the machinegun for some reason.

What this guy said.

It's a gun from the first game but with weird sound changes because everything has to sound like it's ballistic now?
I thought the gun sounded unique when my brother was using it. Didn't seem ballistic in the slightest when I heard it fired off screen. It's got a sort of muted sound to it when it fires and I think it's a nice touch.
Cpt Hayes Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:21pm 
No op is right it really does feel like a reskinned assault rifle. Sickle in 1st game fired short burst beams and eaven sounded like an energy weapon. This one just seems like its another AR shooting bullets... but with a delay for some reason
Luna Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:21pm 
Originally posted by Urmanin:
It's literally the same gun as 1 except it sounds like the machinegun for some reason.
Yeah... The sound design in this game is really lazy. The Dominator sounds exactly like the machine pistol. It's insane.
Originally posted by Levaneron:
I feel like you are missing something here, it's not about being a reskinned assault rifle, it's about giving players opportunities to use what they want and feel good about it. Saying it's just a reskinned assault rifle is like saying every gun in Star Wars is the same gun reskinned, or that every real weapon is just a reskinned machine gun or pistol. You don't seem to understand the differences. Find me a gun in this game where you can fire 3,000 shots without reloading in one mission. Because the sickle can do that. That's not a reskinned assault rifle. Also find me a machine gun with negligible recoil and zero damage fall off. Fallout laser guns have recoil, why don't you compare that mechanic instead of something entirely cosmetic. There's so many community discussions about how bad the laser guns are in Fallout for many reasons. So comparing these laser guns to them is a poor choice.

Literally none of the guns have damage falloff that's why shotgun pellets can basically be treated like flak rounds if you land on a high enough spot in exterminate missions.
Levaneron Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:23pm 
Originally posted by Katitoff:
And new punisher is reskinned grenade launcher that can't close holes.

Just enjoy the weapon if you like it, or don't.

Sickly is literally energy liberator.
The Punisher Plasma does however kind of match what the OP should have tagged onto with a lazy design. The furniture and shape of the gun wasn't really modified much to look unlike a punisher and more like one that was modified into a plasma grenade launcher that can't close holes. It's fun to use I bet, but it does fall into the lazy design more than the Sickle for sure.
Katitoff Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:26pm 
Originally posted by Levaneron:
Originally posted by Katitoff:
And new punisher is reskinned grenade launcher that can't close holes.

Just enjoy the weapon if you like it, or don't.

Sickly is literally energy liberator.
The Punisher Plasma does however kind of match what the OP should have tagged onto with a lazy design. The furniture and shape of the gun wasn't really modified much to look unlike a punisher and more like one that was modified into a plasma grenade launcher that can't close holes. It's fun to use I bet, but it does fall into the lazy design more than the Sickle for sure.
Its a punisher variant.
It looking mostly like punisher is the point.
Incendiary breaker is literally reskinned spray and pray with minor details, but somehow it was not an issue for last month.
Originally posted by Levaneron:
Originally posted by Katitoff:
And new punisher is reskinned grenade launcher that can't close holes.

Just enjoy the weapon if you like it, or don't.

Sickly is literally energy liberator.
The Punisher Plasma does however kind of match what the OP should have tagged onto with a lazy design. The furniture and shape of the gun wasn't really modified much to look unlike a punisher and more like one that was modified into a plasma grenade launcher that can't close holes. It's fun to use I bet, but it does fall into the lazy design more than the Sickle for sure.

Tbh if we want to talk lazy design can we just point out how every jungle themed planet is exactly the same but with a different color and instagram filter? Like, why do even the desert ones somehow have more visual variety..
Last edited by Fluffy Monster Thing; Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:29pm
Wutever Mar 14, 2024 @ 3:29pm 
If the Sickle is lazy then I want more lazy designs because it has both good performance and feels good to shoot. Like, real good.
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Date Posted: Mar 14, 2024 @ 2:58pm
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