First PvD game. We are officially in uncharted territory

[Voodoochile]

We are officially in uncharted territory, friends.

This is the first PvD game (Players vs Developers). They are constantly adjusting all kinds of things without releasing patch notes AT ALL in order to mess with progression towards an unknown to us end goal. Damage, Spawns, AI, Armor, War progress...etc

It's both interesting and frustrating at the same time. In the end it's a totally new experience for me and probably you too.

I think we need to start looking at it from this perspective to not get mad or demoralized by these stealth changes. The unbalance...those insurmountable odds look like something the Devs are roleplaying in to the game. We can only "roll with it" and keep fighting the best we can.

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Theory confirmed. It seems we now have been given new tools to fight the heavily increased enemy spawns. The new Warbond has:
- Localization Confusion booster which seemingly reduces enemy spawns ("increase time between enemy encounters")
- Armor that resists electrical damage so that we can all rock the Arc and new lightning weapons that deal extremely well with swarms

[Katitoff]

20 people screeching about railgun for half a week is not "community".

Everyone else welcomes the direction.

Tourists will move on to the next big game once Dragon Dogma 2 releases.

[Elfblood]

Not so much the developers i think, its the common struggle between "i want to have a fun time" guys, and the "i want to be uber hardcore tryhardyer" players... and at the moment they lost the "fun" part, especiaslly for smaler groups.

[Voodoochile]

Originally posted by Elfblood:

Not so much the developers i think, its the common struggle between "i want to have a fun time" guys, and the "i want to be uber hardcore tryhardyer" players... and at the moment they lost the "fun" part, especiaslly for smaler groups.

Originally posted by Katitoff:

20 people screeching about railgun for half a week is not "community".

Everyone else welcomes the direction.

Tourists will move on to the next big game once Dragon Dogma 2 releases.

None of that explains the total LACK of patch notes, which leave us wondering WHAT exactly was touched and how much.

[Danyaell]

I miss the old days people played video games for fun.

[Dain_Ironfoot]

Oh no what ever shall we do.

[Za'Muro]

gaymers have become too soft just like the rest. they cry about everything instead of learning adapting and overcoming like true men

[Аронхайт]

Originally posted by Voodoochile:

We are officially in uncharted territory, friends.

This is the first PvD game (Players vs Developers). They are constantly adjusting all kinds of things without releasing patch notes AT ALL in order to mess with progression towards an unknown to us end goal. Damage, Spawns, AI, Armor, War progress...etc

It's both interesting and frustrating at the same time. In the end it's a totally new experience for me and probably you too.

I think we need to start looking at it from this perspective to not get mad or demoralized by these stealth changes. The unbalance...those insurmountable odds look like something the Devs are roleplaying in to the game. We can only "roll with it" and keep fighting the best we can.

Why the first? Darktide as an example, and in general, it has always been like this.

[Diselxic Larma]

bro just tell us you can't read and move on

[Firellius]

Originally posted by Za'Muro:

gaymers have become too soft just like the rest. they cry about everything instead of learning adapting and overcoming like true men

It's a game, bro. Put that kind of effort in the gym or a dayjob.

[Katitoff]

Originally posted by Voodoochile:

Originally posted by Elfblood:

Not so much the developers i think, its the common struggle between "i want to have a fun time" guys, and the "i want to be uber hardcore tryhardyer" players... and at the moment they lost the "fun" part, especiaslly for smaler groups.

Originally posted by Katitoff:

20 people screeching about railgun for half a week is not "community".

Everyone else welcomes the direction.

Tourists will move on to the next big game once Dragon Dogma 2 releases.

None of that explains the total LACK of patch notes, which leave us wondering WHAT exactly was touched and how much.

That's completely unrelated issue. But it sure is an issue.
Changes need to be communicated clearly, all of them.

[Vespertellino]

I mean, it's at least 2nd game like this haha
I know WoW also hase game masters and such
But it's def a rare spawn

[Exdeath]

Developers are right im every decision they made.

Become a man you boy

[Voodoochile]

Originally posted by Vespertellino:

I mean, it's at least 2nd game like this haha
I know WoW also hase game masters and such
But it's def a rare spawn

Game Masters in WoW are not deciding how Faction Warfare should go.
There also isn't a hint in the game that players can "influence" the story or outcomes.
The experience is linear. Also, if something is adjusted, it's communicated in patch notes to high detail.

This is the first popular game where things like Ai behavior, damage, spawns are adjusted and not communicated in patch notes. It truly is a war experience where the enemy is doing things in secret to counter your progress.

[Terrkas]

Never played pnp? The ddvs have the same rlle as the gamemaster. Keep it interesting. So unless its not a really bad gamemaster who thinks they have to "win" by all means its not us vs them.

Edit:
Though if you think already its us vs them. This game might not work out for you. A gamemaster doesnt have as goal to beat the players.

[Voodoochile]

Originally posted by Exdeath:

Developers are right im every decision they made.

Become a man you boy

Of course they are. I never claim in my post that they are not. It's their game after all.