Don't believe the realism argument

[G-Yuki]

It's selective realism, cherry picking at best. That crap about flames bouncing off armor and calling it realistic is the most dishonest thing they've said. Plenty of real examples of flames not only being good against armor but sticking to and melting through it. Napalm is no joke.

[HopeSavior]

All the streamers say this all the time. Realism for thee but not for me.

[MagikarpMagi]

Selective realism is just science fiction

[DR. JOHN DEJAVU 1984]

Originally posted by CritMasterFlex:

Selective realism is just science fiction

You're not gonna believe this...

[Shotgunger]

Realism in this game is, apparently, when you jump-shoot the rocket launcher to do more damage. Duh.

[Anticitizen 1]

The "realism" thing was always a particularly stupid non-argument. This game thoroughly lacks realism:
- Recoil on flamers and laser weapons
- Surviving a rocket shot or the main cannon shot of a tank
- 500kg effective radius of 10m
- Railcannon strike not obliterating any enemy in a single shot
- Constant meteor storms on inhabited planets
- ARs are less powerful than SMGs
- An overgrown bug tanking a literal AT rocket even when it hits in the head (behemoth/bile)
- AT cannons almost useless against overgrown bugs when in reality, they would actually go through side armour of MBTs, same goes for railgun

[tom five]

Lol. I agree with the sentiment, but napalm does not "melt through armor".

[robert.s_a]

Originally posted by mf tom:

Lol. I agree with the sentiment, but napalm does not "melt through armor".

No, it just melts the thing wearing the armor. A huge difference that i'm sure the target appreciates.

[tom five]

Originally posted by robert.s_a:

Originally posted by mf tom:

Lol. I agree with the sentiment, but napalm does not "melt through armor".

No, it just melts the thing wearing the armor. A huge difference that i'm sure the target appreciates.

Yeah, if only they had some sort of heat resistant armor in the future. Oh wait, we already have that today.

[Khal'cynee]

AH doesnt know the brazen bull lol
You are absolutely not in security in a tank or others armored thing if someone is heating it (flamer or other heat source)
and the flamer should have a backpack like autocanon, this weapon requiere a ton of fuel to shoot more than 5 second, their little canister is ridiculous...

[tom five]

Originally posted by Khal'cynee:

AH doesnt know the brazen bull lol
You are absolutely not in security in a tank or others armored thing if someone is heating it (flamer or other heat source)
and the flamer should have a backpack like autocanon, this weapon requiere a ton of fuel to shoot more than 5 second, their little canister is ridiculous...

Modern armor isn't made of bronze.

[Kyren]

Originally posted by Khal'cynee:

AH doesnt know the brazen bull lol
You are absolutely not in security in a tank or others armored thing if someone is heating it (flamer or other heat source)
and the flamer should have a backpack like autocanon, this weapon requiere a ton of fuel to shoot more than 5 second, their little canister is ridiculous...

Exactly. The charger should STOP the flames passing through him to other bugs, but still die to the insane heat.

[Khal'cynee]

Originally posted by mf tom:

Originally posted by Khal'cynee:

AH doesnt know the brazen bull lol
You are absolutely not in security in a tank or others armored thing if someone is heating it (flamer or other heat source)
and the flamer should have a backpack like autocanon, this weapon requiere a ton of fuel to shoot more than 5 second, their little canister is ridiculous...

Modern armor isn't made of bronze.

yes they are in steel, wich is not better
and dont tell me composite or glass or other stuff; firethrower can infiltrate everywhere with the pressure, one tiny hole and you are cooked
the main reasons why nobody use firethrower nowadays are the fuel canister need to be huge, it consume a lot of fuel and the range is bad compared to modern AT weapon
and im pretty sure its a war crime lol

[Kyren]

Originally posted by Helldivers™ 2:

So much realism they didn't even bother to google for 1 second and learn AT mines only explode when a heavy vehicle steps on them, and not on any random person

ok but the helldivers are wearing massive tanky steel armoured master chief ahh suits that would probably put them in the threshold for the mines

stuff like scavengers though shouldnt set it off

[CloversDrop]

Originally posted by G-Yuki:

It's selective realism, cherry picking at best. That crap about flames bouncing off armor and calling it realistic is the most dishonest thing they've said. Plenty of real examples of flames not only being good against armor but sticking to and melting through it. Napalm is no joke.

The truth it:
They fixed the knife going through charger armour, the fix broke the flames going through it too.

[Anticitizen 1]

Originally posted by Kyren:

Originally posted by Helldivers™ 2:

So much realism they didn't even bother to google for 1 second and learn AT mines only explode when a heavy vehicle steps on them, and not on any random person

ok but the helldivers are wearing massive tanky steel armoured master chief ahh suits that would probably put them in the threshold for the mines

stuff like scavengers though shouldnt set it off

They are not wearing MC suits since the protection they provide is laughable compared to MC suit. Also one of them has arms exposed and only light plating so it definitely shouldn't be setting off mines.