HELLDIVERS™ 2

HELLDIVERS™ 2

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Arrowhead never misses a chance to miss a chance. Just as they made the constitution a useless weapon when they could have given it heavy pen to remotely give people a reason to take it out for dives, they made the shovel a found-in-mission support weapon when it could have been a useful secondary weapon.

People will be like "but it's funny though" but these weapons could still be a gimmick with a niche to fill, this kind of thinking is what leads to non-content.
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Naxos Feb 15 @ 8:32pm 
I find constitution to be relatively decent when using Siege Ready, the round reload paired with faster reload from the armor makes it so you basically never have to hide in order to reload. It's a good weapon if you can take accurate shots, and if you cant, then using it consistently is a good way to train your aim.
Originally posted by Naxos:
I find constitution to be relatively decent when using Siege Ready, the round reload paired with faster reload from the armor makes it so you basically never have to hide in order to reload. It's a good weapon if you can take accurate shots, and if you cant, then using it consistently is a good way to train your aim.
But it still doesn't fill a niche and is overshadowed by an adjudicator on semi-auto, especially with that premium armour you mention. To take it over the countless other mid AP weapons is just for the sake of it, hence a gimmick.

Back when the senator was "only" mid AP, it still filled a niche as the only real mid AP secondary. When the verdict moved up a tier, it found its new niche as the only heavy AP secondary. The verdict will still be the generalist secondary because most enemies a secondary will shoot on higher difficulties are mid armour, but the senator still gives you a choice of hunting big game, which is not what the constitution has.

My point is not that the constitution is a bad gun or whatever, it's that it was just added to be overshadowed for no reason. Making it heavy pen would not have broken the game.
Last edited by BlackCockDown; Feb 15 @ 8:42pm
Midas Feb 15 @ 9:02pm 
I want a fortification stratagem that calls in a deployable barricade and comes with a shovel. It is a shame it's a support slot weapon, though.
Last edited by Midas; Feb 15 @ 9:03pm
I actually really like the constitution.

Accurate, easy to control and is borderline a melee weapon.
Very good for plinking weak-points. I don't think EVERYTHING needs to fill a niche of some-kind, it's fine for a weapon to exist for the sake of being silly and fun.

As for the shovel, It's really dumb that we haven't been given it as a secondary.
I've found it to be extremely useful for digging foxholes or slit-trenches during the various defence stages of missions. It's saved my bacon more times than I can count against the bots.
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Date Posted: Feb 15 @ 8:26pm
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