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kenneth 20 MAR a las 4:15
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New warbond is 3.5 / 10
revolver is worse than the senator the only good thing is 'infinite ammo'

lever action as weak as constitution because this has medium armor penetration so use the constitution and you got a bayonnet

Dynamite...use impact or basic grenade or thermite

Armor very nice looking but secondary reload isn't good enough

jetpack stationnary is okay but not that great only good for bugs combined with a flamethrower

so in short only for the MEMES do it if you want real power don't buy it
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Publicado originalmente por zidj:
Publicado originalmente por Hawk:
8 round single load with possibly the slowest reload in the entire game,
a staple of rounds reload which you can simply interrupt by shooting at any time during the reload if you need bullets asap, and run siege ready if you want it to be faster with more reserve rounds

Publicado originalmente por Hawk:
poor handling or at least slightly better than the Jar-5
huh?

Publicado originalmente por Hawk:
an optic that is incorrectly sighted (because Arrowhead can't do basic QC)
it's sighted correctly. i'm 1 tapping bots a plenty with it. at longer ranges it has some drop which may be why you think this.

Publicado originalmente por Hawk:
Laser revolver... meh basically a 7 round magazine (8th you overhead), ridiculous VISUAL recoil but "no recoil", not many reloads because it's "infinite" provided that you don't overheat it.
yes there's not much point to using it in first person because just like dagger, really all other secondaries, it has an impractically weak scope, and inf ammo makes the occasional miss with third person aim more forgiving

Publicado originalmente por Hawk:
TNT bundle that doesn't work half of the time closing bug holes and factories, large blast radius the size of the Ultimatum but zero armor pen, but it has a 3 option fuse... wow.

no comment, i dont have tnt yet.

Publicado originalmente por Hawk:
Armor that just helps with some of the weakest and most boring weapons in the game who's category only has like 3 viable options at this point.
secondaries have plenty of great, viable options.
- redeemer
- bushwhacker
- verdict
- talon
- senator
- loyalist
- grenade pistol
- stim pistol
- the melees (but they won't benefit from this passive)

if anything there's only a few bad secondaries
- dagger needs a better scope for its low dps and precision oriented beam to make sense
- crisper (and torcher) have too little dps. AH needs to figure out how to get the fixed, nearly doubled, DPS, from the flamer rework, while also retaining the heavy AP and better VFX
- ultimatum ammo nerf was cringe, AH should man up and just lower its demo force to SPEAR's and give the ammo back so it can be a proper dedicated AT secondary

Publicado originalmente por Hawk:
A hover pack that is worse in every way to the regular Jet Pack and will more than likely get you killed or swatted out of the sky as you can barely control your character and your weapon handling is in the toilet.
it's a bullet magnet on bots for sure but a nice option for raining death from above on bugs (and squids, if you can take care of the overseers before using it to wipe out voteless)

Publicado originalmente por Hawk:
All of that for the low low price of $10... and that's not even everything that should have been in the warbond. Yet again they cut out content to resell it to us so you get 2/3rds of a full warbond for more then pay again for the rest via the market.
at least compared to the past few warbonds we actually get the new passive for all 3 armor sets instead of leaving holes in customization (looking at you truth enforcers, urban legends, servants of freedom, killzone crossover)
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Scout Gaming 20 MAR a las 4:29 
Actually lever action has twice the damage of the constitution as well as way more firerate
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✘States 20 MAR a las 4:32 
The lever action has a scope with a 150*m zoom, which already makes it better than the Constitution, and be serious, who actually cares about the bayonet.
Última edición por ✘States; 20 MAR a las 4:46
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Hawk 20 MAR a las 4:33 
Publicado originalmente por ✘States:
The lever action has a scope with a 175m zoom, which already makes it better than the Constitution, and be serious, who actually cares about the bayonet.
Um... it's only medium pen, 300 damage, slow ROF, horrible reload speed and bad handling along with shell loading rather than a magazine.
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Honkler 20 MAR a las 4:34 
Publicado originalmente por ✘States:
The lever action has a scope with a 175m zoom, which already makes it better than the Constitution, and be serious, who actually cares about the bayonet.

WWI re-enactors

The dude who spent half the match with an entrenching tool trying to simulate Verdun in Duma Tyr by digging his way into the core of the planet just so he wont get shot
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pazow269 20 MAR a las 4:35 
random question what makes the laser revolver worse than the senator? is it the medium armour pen, the fact its a laser weapon so it has to cool down (of which takes like, a few seconds to cool). other than that, it has a higher rate of fire and less recoil
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Pronnu 20 MAR a las 4:35 
Armor passive makes the Senator even more ridiculously overpowered.
Las-58 Talon is an infinite ammo Verdict.
Deadeye will be deadly with Siege Ready.
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✘States 20 MAR a las 4:39 
Publicado originalmente por Hawk:
Publicado originalmente por ✘States:
The lever action has a scope with a 175m zoom, which already makes it better than the Constitution, and be serious, who actually cares about the bayonet.
Um... it's only medium pen, 300 damage, slow ROF, horrible reload speed and bad handling along with shell loading rather than a magazine.
It's a lever action, of course it won't be magazine fed, and the ROF is slow when you compare it to any other assault rifle.
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pazow269 20 MAR a las 4:44 
Publicado originalmente por Hawk:
Publicado originalmente por ✘States:
The lever action has a scope with a 175m zoom, which already makes it better than the Constitution, and be serious, who actually cares about the bayonet.
Um... it's only medium pen, 300 damage, slow ROF, horrible reload speed and bad handling along with shell loading rather than a magazine.
counter point, higher damage than every assault rifle and marksman rifle, only some of the shotguns can outdamage it, it even outdamages some of the laser and plasma weapons. im willing to accept a lower ROF and reload speed for whats basically an elephant rifle
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Cordarius France Jammal 20 MAR a las 4:52 
its boring AF, all they could think of for armor was a stat increase that barely matters? and on both armors? they really couldn't have thought of anything unique. the dynamite is just a bigger radius HE with less damage and pen. (could have been cool if it did extra ground deformation or you could stick it onto enemys/objects). Just more boring warbond slop.
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✘States 20 MAR a las 5:11 
Publicado originalmente por Cordarius France Jammal:
its boring AF, all they could think of for armor was a stat increase that barely matters? and on both armors? they really couldn't have thought of anything unique. the dynamite is just a bigger radius HE with less damage and pen. (could have been cool if it did extra ground deformation or you could stick it onto enemys/objects). Just more boring warbond slop.
They 6 last warbonds have had 2 armours, with the same effect on both of them. What a surprise this one also has 2 armours, with the same effect.
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Pride Lizard Pride Lizard 20 MAR a las 5:18 
Publicado originalmente por pazow269:
random question what makes the laser revolver worse than the senator? is it the medium armour pen, the fact its a laser weapon so it has to cool down (of which takes like, a few seconds to cool). other than that, it has a higher rate of fire and less recoil
I'd actually argue the laser revolver is *almost* better than the Revolver. From my experience, the laser revolver has better accuracy, the medium pen hurts the damage output but given its 'infinite ammo' cooling it actually makes for an exceptional backup weapon. Pull it out, fire 5 shots, put it away, keep firing with your normal weapon. The normal revolver has a horribly long reload, this gun does not.
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Pronnu 20 MAR a las 5:29 
Publicado originalmente por ✘States:
Publicado originalmente por Cordarius France Jammal:
its boring AF, all they could think of for armor was a stat increase that barely matters? and on both armors? they really couldn't have thought of anything unique. the dynamite is just a bigger radius HE with less damage and pen. (could have been cool if it did extra ground deformation or you could stick it onto enemys/objects). Just more boring warbond slop.
They 6 last warbonds have had 2 armours, with the same effect on both of them. What a surprise this one also has 2 armours, with the same effect.
Lest we forget that Democracy Protects popped up twice in Helldivers Mobilize, and Steel Vets only had Servo Assisted.


Publicado originalmente por Pride Lizard Pride Lizard:
Publicado originalmente por pazow269:
random question what makes the laser revolver worse than the senator? is it the medium armour pen, the fact its a laser weapon so it has to cool down (of which takes like, a few seconds to cool). other than that, it has a higher rate of fire and less recoil
I'd actually argue the laser revolver is *almost* better than the Revolver. From my experience, the laser revolver has better accuracy, the medium pen hurts the damage output but given its 'infinite ammo' cooling it actually makes for an exceptional backup weapon. Pull it out, fire 5 shots, put it away, keep firing with your normal weapon. The normal revolver has a horribly long reload, this gun does not.
Good take, but try the Senator with the new armor passive.
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Blue Thunder 20 MAR a las 5:33 
Publicado originalmente por Pronnu:
Armor passive makes the Senator even more ridiculously overpowered.
Las-58 Talon is an infinite ammo Verdict.
Deadeye will be deadly with Siege Ready.
This is something I think they should swap with Siege Ready: Siege Ready affect magazine fed weapons, be it secondary or Primary. Have the new Gunslinger passive to affect Round reload weapons.

It's a bit weird that the Warbond that gives a passive on reload speed and recoil reduction on Secondaries comes with a laser weapon that barely benefits from either. Giving the passive of Gunslinger to all Round reload weapons would also help with the reload seepd of the Deadeye, which also comes in said Warbond.
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Pronnu 20 MAR a las 5:36 
Publicado originalmente por Blue Thunder:
Publicado originalmente por Pronnu:
Armor passive makes the Senator even more ridiculously overpowered.
Las-58 Talon is an infinite ammo Verdict.
Deadeye will be deadly with Siege Ready.
This is something I think they should swap with Siege Ready: Siege Ready affect magazine fed weapons, be it secondary or Primary. Have the new Gunslinger passive to affect Round reload weapons.

It's a bit weird that the Warbond that gives a passive on reload speed and recoil reduction on Secondaries comes with a laser weapon that barely benefits from either. Giving the passive of Gunslinger to all Round reload weapons would also help with the reload seepd of the Deadeye, which also comes in said Warbond.
Every warbond we've been getting since Urban Legends has something that synergizes with something from a past warbond. If you've got really good aim, then the new armor passive + senator + directional shield would be a pretty strong combination.
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EvilZombie (Bloqueado) 20 MAR a las 6:13 
The laser revolver is insanely POWERFUL 3 shot to brood commander and they are dead ~! 1 shot to hunter now you dont really need support weapons when you carry that
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