CPU bottleneck on 7800x3d?

[Goon Slayer]

Hi im running 7900xtx and 7800x3d which i think is pretty good combo. Im being bottlenecked by cpu (around 80% gpu usage) and i swear it wasnt happening when i was on windows 10. im on windows 11 since microsoft has put gun to my head and made me update. Is there any fix besides downgrading to windows 10?

[Caldari Ghost]

whats your upscaling set to

[LegendaryKira]

Originally posted by tung tung tung tung tung sahur:

Hi im running 7900xtx and 7800x3d which i think is pretty good combo. Im being bottlenecked by cpu (around 80% gpu usage) and i swear it wasnt happening when i was on windows 10. im on windows 11 since microsoft has put gun to my head and made me update. Is there any fix besides downgrading to windows 10?

Its not you its the game. The game has consistently gotten worse in performance with every update since release. AT release it ran like a dream but now u will always be below 60 no matter the setting

[Goon Slayer]

Originally posted by Caldari Ghost:

whats your upscaling set to

native

[Prowler™]

You kids need to learn what the word "bottle neck" means lol

A "bottle neck" in terms of gaming is which component is pulling the most weight, so to speak...
This will be a balancing act between your GPU of choice and CPU of choice and your personal settings...it is effected by a dozen different variables, the biggest ones being display resolution and model of GPU/CPU...

A 7800x3d is one of THE best gaming CPUs on the market
A 7900xtx is one of the highest branded GPUs AMD produce

Playing Helldivers 2 at 2k native resolution on this combo should give you 144+ fps if everything is working correctly...because i get that with a much weaker GPU and the same CPU lol

If you play at 1080p or lower due to fake frame upscaling, your CPU can start to "bottle neck" as its cannot fill the draw requests as fast as the GPU can render such a small resolution.

If you play at 4k, your GPU can start to "bottle neck" as it cannot process the larger frames as fast as your CPU can prep them

I hope that makes some sorta sense...pretty sure thats simple enough.

For AMD i would strongly suggest you check you have clean installed drivers. They have been vastly updated since those products launched with all sorts of updates to their performance. They work really well for this game, you don't need any upscaling if you set it correctly.

Butt you do you and believe whatever you want lol

[Caldari Ghost]

Originally posted by tung tung tung tung tung sahur:

Originally posted by Caldari Ghost:

whats your upscaling set to

native

rip

from the posts here I'm starting to gather the game prefers core count over v-cache. My 5950x seems to handle the game just fine, but you're not the only one with an x3d that has complained about the performance lately.

[Goon Slayer]

Originally posted by Prowler™:

You kids need to learn what the word "bottle neck" means lol

A "bottle neck" in terms of gaming is which component is pulling the most weight, so to speak...
This will be a balancing act between your GPU of choice and CPU of choice and your personal settings...it is effected by a dozen different variables, the biggest ones being display resolution and model of GPU/CPU...

A 7800x3d is one of THE best gaming CPUs on the market
A 7900xtx is one of the highest branded GPUs AMD produce

Playing Helldivers 2 at 2k native resolution on this combo should give you 144+ fps if everything is working correctly...because i get that with a much weaker GPU and the same CPU lol

If you play at 1080p or lower due to fake frame upscaling, your CPU can start to "bottle neck" as its cannot fill the draw requests as fast as the GPU can render such a small resolution.

If you play at 4k, your GPU can start to "bottle neck" as it cannot process the larger frames as fast as your CPU can prep them

I hope that makes some sorta sense...pretty sure thats simple enough.

For AMD i would strongly suggest you check you have clean installed drivers. They have been vastly updated since those products launched with all sorts of updates to their performance. They work really well for this game, you don't need any upscaling if you set it correctly.

Butt you do you and believe whatever you want lol :waytohell:

thing is that i dont have 144fps i have 120 on ship when on widnows 10 i had 160, gpu is under 90% so its clearly not the gpu issue. So tell me then what is it? I have clean installed this windows 11 (from usb formatting all drives) about a day ago. I know what is bottleneck and how it work you just wasted your time explaining to me something I already knew.

[Dragova]

I mean you could go back to Win10, that's on you man. Only thing I noticed when using Win11 with HD2 (latest service pack 24h2) is the microphone audio gets bumped lower any time any sound passes through the mic when it's set to system default when running hd2. Devs are probably trolls given how situational that is.

[Demonocolips]

win11 does have more overhead than win10. most games run worse on it for some reason. however with win10 end of life being end of this year micro$haft is trying to force people onto the buggy new system. linux even with its overhead seems to be running games better than 11, well at least the games that do run on it.

[Adventurer]

It’s an obsolete cpu. Get the new 9800x3d

[Rebellis_@uitum]

bro, how anyone getting past 60 fps in this game ? i have 4070 with ryzen 5700x and in every settings my fps drops to below 70 and even 50s on illuminate missions on past level 6 but if im playing on level 1 thats when i get +100 fps its making me insane

[Goon Slayer]

Originally posted by Rebellis_@uitum:

bro, how anyone getting past 60 fps in this game ? i have 4070 with ryzen 5700x and in every settings my fps drops to below 70 and even 50s on illuminate missions on past level 6 but if im playing on level 1 thats when i get +100 fps its making me insane

This is insane. On 1080p?

[Goon Slayer]

Originally posted by Demonocolips:

win11 does have more overhead than win10. most games run worse on it for some reason. however with win10 end of life being end of this year micro$haft is trying to force people onto the buggy new system. linux even with its overhead seems to be running games better than 11, well at least the games that do run on it.

Weird thing is that I noticed it only in this game

[Mosey]

I can't point you to a solution, but the system requirements for Windows 11 make me think that's a pretty good bet. I must be getting old, but system requirements like that for an OS seems insane.

[Goon Slayer]

Originally posted by Mosey:

I can't point you to a solution, but the system requirements for Windows 11 make me think that's a pretty good bet. I must be getting old, but system requirements like that for an OS seems insane.

I love being pegged by biggest company in the world

[Greccen]

Originally posted by Prowler™:

You kids need to learn what the word "bottle neck" means lol

A "bottle neck" in terms of gaming is which component is pulling the most weight, so to speak...
This will be a balancing act between your GPU of choice and CPU of choice and your personal settings...it is effected by a dozen different variables, the biggest ones being display resolution and model of GPU/CPU...

A 7800x3d is one of THE best gaming CPUs on the market
A 7900xtx is one of the highest branded GPUs AMD produce

Playing Helldivers 2 at 2k native resolution on this combo should give you 144+ fps if everything is working correctly...because i get that with a much weaker GPU and the same CPU lol

If you play at 1080p or lower due to fake frame upscaling, your CPU can start to "bottle neck" as its cannot fill the draw requests as fast as the GPU can render such a small resolution.

If you play at 4k, your GPU can start to "bottle neck" as it cannot process the larger frames as fast as your CPU can prep them

I hope that makes some sorta sense...pretty sure thats simple enough.

For AMD i would strongly suggest you check you have clean installed drivers. They have been vastly updated since those products launched with all sorts of updates to their performance. They work really well for this game, you don't need any upscaling if you set it correctly.

Butt you do you and believe whatever you want lol :waytohell:

Indeed, a base load of 70-80% on your gpu just means you're using it, not bottlenecking it. It has the capacity to run on a higher scale and intended.

You need to find the perfect balance of load between your GPU and CPU.

If your GPU can handle all that load without microstutter and your CPU can handle all the GPU churn you're good to go.

I got the 7800xt -7800x3d combo btw on 2k at around 100fps. Works like a dream.
If you want to save heat and electricity thus save money turn the fps down. Not the resolution.