HELLDIVERS™ 2

HELLDIVERS™ 2

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R-2 is the second worst gun
The R-2 is only outmatched in terms of terribleness by the actual worst gun in the game, the R-2124.

Seriously. Why does a freaking full-sized RIFLE have only LIGHT ARMOUR PENETRATION?
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Dwolite May 15 @ 3:46am 
Have you unlocked it and used it in battle?
Good scope, good handling, barely any recoil. It's the Diligence, but better. It's a god tier Devastator and Berserker head popper.
Nugget May 15 @ 3:55am 
Originally posted by Dwolite:
Have you unlocked it and used it in battle?
I have, and i can confidently tell you that its another bog-standard Dilligence rifle.
Only 30 dmg more than the Dilligence, and the ammo capacity is so much worse than the Dilligence, only having less than 10 shots compared to 25 shots in the Dilligence...
Last edited by Nugget; May 15 @ 3:55am
Originally posted by Prinny:
Good scope, good handling, barely any recoil. It's the Diligence, but better. It's a god tier Devastator and Berserker head popper.
Light pen is the cause, if it had medium pen then it would be a good weapon
Zaidah May 15 @ 3:58am 
Stat-wise, it's a Diligence with more damage and more recoil, longer reload time and a melee attachment.

Diligence is good.
Aidal May 15 @ 4:00am 
Originally posted by Prinny:
Good scope, good handling, barely any recoil. It's the Diligence, but better. It's a god tier Devastator and Berserker head popper.

I'm going to be super real with you, there are many god-tier head poppers right now. I feel like it should have been an upgrade from the constitution (You know, an amendment to the constitution) Instead of a side to the counter sniper. I say this as an avid scoped weapon user. Like I'm hyped for the new weapon but c'mon it wrote itself. The constitution can't be customized right now anyway, so being able to use a scope on it would have brought it up to A-tier for me.

Alas.
Originally posted by Aidal:
Originally posted by Prinny:
Good scope, good handling, barely any recoil. It's the Diligence, but better. It's a god tier Devastator and Berserker head popper.

I'm going to be super real with you, there are many god-tier head poppers right now. I feel like it should have been an upgrade from the constitution (You know, an amendment to the constitution) Instead of a side to the counter sniper. I say this as an avid scoped weapon user. Like I'm hyped for the new weapon but c'mon it wrote itself. The constitution can't be customized right now anyway, so being able to use a scope on it would have brought it up to A-tier for me.

Alas.
Were you going to be super fake otherwise?
It's the constitution with automatic loading, a magazine and a scope. They gave it light pen to balance it out. This is how Arrowhead works. If you've been around long enough, you should already have this figured out.
You've already got three other medium pen rifles in the exact same catagory. Having another light pen marksman rifle isn't a terrible thing.
Last edited by *ੈ✩‧₊˚༺☆Prinny☆; May 15 @ 4:10am
Slie May 15 @ 4:20am 
Honestly, its not the worst thing - I don't think its a bug weapon much like many of the DMRs though. People are upset because of no Med pen just because of Hive Guards - literally the only thing bugs have that are Med armor.
Originally posted by Slie:
Honestly, its not the worst thing - I don't think its a bug weapon much like many of the DMRs though. People are upset because of no Med pen just because of Hive Guards - literally the only thing bugs have that are Med armor.
Hive Guards aren't even that common. You even have secondaries that make short work of the few you do encounter.
Aidal May 15 @ 4:50am 
Originally posted by Prinny:
Originally posted by Aidal:

I'm going to be super real with you, there are many god-tier head poppers right now. I feel like it should have been an upgrade from the constitution (You know, an amendment to the constitution) Instead of a side to the counter sniper. I say this as an avid scoped weapon user. Like I'm hyped for the new weapon but c'mon it wrote itself. The constitution can't be customized right now anyway, so being able to use a scope on it would have brought it up to A-tier for me.

Alas.
Were you going to be super fake otherwise?
It's the constitution with automatic loading, a magazine and a scope. They gave it light pen to balance it out. This is how Arrowhead works. If you've been around long enough, you should already have this figured out.
You've already got three other medium pen rifles in the exact same catagory. Having another light pen marksman rifle isn't a terrible thing.

They could have kept the bolt action for balance and reduced the mag from 20 to 10, this would have made it an "amendment" to the performance of the constitution, instead we have something that under performs since the diligence rifle, has 10 more rounds to mag, and while it does less damage, most bot heads only have 100HP, so as long as the bullet does more than 100 damage, it doesn't matter as long as you're accurate.

Means right now the diligence out performs it if you can land shots, and if you can't you need to use a full auto anyway, but none of that matters, since I would consider its direct competition in terms of potential use to be the R6-Deadeye, it has a nice scope, lever action, and 300 damage, medium penetration and 7 rounds to the mag, which everyone who can grab it gravitates to.

I am going to stick to my eruptor for now, and if they allowed me to mount a scope on the constitution I'd switch in a heart beat, but for now my rifles are Eruptor, Diligence, and Deadeye, I'm glad people enjoy it, I enjoy it to, I just also see no reason to really use it outside of completion, it does a comparable job to an existing rifle with less rounds in the mag.
Last edited by Aidal; May 15 @ 5:19am
So all the ARs and all the DMRs should have med armor pen? They are full sized rifles after all? :captainclown:

This kind of mindset is what leads to cringe power creep in video games, not every new gun has to be a direct upgrade from the old ones (even though the r2 is pretty much just a better deligance xd)

sidegrades > direct upgrades
Akantorz May 15 @ 4:53am 
The amount of people here who don't understand why this weapon sucks is depressing, so I'll explain it nice and slow:

Damage
Already an issue, if it can pop dev heads in one shot, it's fine for bots, which is at 110 damage, nobody was asking for a DMR that was 200, we already have the DCS.

Handling
The issue the DCS has is ass handling where it is now the primary with the WORST HANDLING IN THE GAME. Yes, even Dominator and Eruptor have better handling now. Nevermind the fact that the devs don't know how angled grips work and think we should trade recoil control for ergonomics despite that being the wrong. Angled grips also improve recoil control in real life. Yet we have a LIGHT PEN WEAPON that handles like a fridge at almost the SAME VALUE AS THE DCS. WHY!!!!??????

Penetration
I want someone with a straight face to tell me that they use the dilligence constantly, nobody ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ does. If anyone is using a DMR right now it's been the new Deadeye since it came out, I haven't seen a DCS since that warbonds launch and I haven't seen a base Diligence since escalation of freedom. Medium pen should be the STANDARD for DMRs.

Ammo
We trade 35 damage for 5 less rounds per mag that the Diligence? LMAO.

Breakpoints
People who think damage trade is good need to understand breakpoints. I can break a Dev leg in the same amount of shots as I can with the DCS, what does that tell you? That the DCS overkills on the breakpoint compared to the Amendment. Same goes for bugs, some will take 2 shots regardless if you use DCS or Diligence. So if that is the case, why the hell would I trade: Handling, ammo, and pen for the same breakpoints? WHY?????!!!

Overall this weapon is so garbage I'd rather be caught naked with the constitution in a Field of Hulks than have this gun. I want a refund for this warbond.
Last edited by Akantorz; May 15 @ 4:54am
Originally posted by Prinny:
Good scope, good handling, barely any recoil. It's the Diligence, but better. It's a god tier Devastator and Berserker head popper.
i dont know stA-52 is more better then that gun to be honest and the best marksman rifle right now is the R-63CS diligence for its medium pen so that gun gets out classed by most other guns
Originally posted by lemon:
Originally posted by Dwolite:
Have you unlocked it and used it in battle?
I have, and i can confidently tell you that its another bog-standard Dilligence rifle.
Only 30 dmg more than the Dilligence, and the ammo capacity is so much worse than the Dilligence, only having less than 10 shots compared to 25 shots in the Dilligence...
it has a 20 cap magazine what do you mean
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