Looking at Freedom's Flame warbond. For those who have it, is it good?

[Wrench gaming]

I have more than 1,000 super credits to buy a new warbond. I currently have Steeled Veterans, but after getting all the weapons I thought it's time to buy another bond. Recently I have been using the flamethrower support weapon nonstop against the Termanids and the Illuminate and have discovered it'a just crazy good. Then I see Freedom's Flame has a fire primary meaning you don't have to waste a stratagem slot, an incendiary shotgun that staggers, and a bright safety orange color pallet for vehicles!

I'm torn between this bond and the Democratic detonation solely because of the crossbow. Should I just bite the bullet and buy Freedom's Flame or hold off, maybe for a potential anniversary warbond?

[GustavoM]

If you mean "good" by "Able to clean up diff. 10 like its childs play"?
Nope.
At least the orange is nice.

Originally posted by Wrench gaming:

I'm torn between this bond and the Democratic detonation

Then go for democratic detonation...
...even if (eventually) you'll unlock all warbonds anyways.

[Foxador]

Democrat dentonation is better

The flaming warbond isn't horrible but it's not the same as the flamer support weapon. Less range less damage less ammo. I'd get it after the other one

I'd wait currently because we are due for another warbond soon to be safe. Better to be safe than to risk it since we're almost at two months so we should be getting something soon

[Foxador]

Originally posted by GustavoM:

If you mean "good" by "Able to clean up diff. 10 like its childs play"?
Nope.

Why would anyone judge any warbond by that ridiculous assessment?

If a single warbond makes things that easy it should be adjusted

[Logen Neuf-Doigts]

3 primaries , one secondary and one thermite vs 2 primaries and a secondary
democratic demolition just has more bang for the buck

[Helldivers™ 2]

No, its garbage effort wise. The shotgun is just incendiary punisher, and the 2 secondaries are a reskin of the flamethrower. The exploding pods booster is instakick, and the thermite grenades are ok

[The Blind One]

Okay so objectively the Flame warbond is not that good in comparison to what all the other warbonds offer. (specifically detonation is considered the best warbond)

BUT

If you are having fun with the fire theme and want to play more with that theme.

It's better than any other warbond. It's whatever is fun to you and what keeps you playing that is objectively the best.

[GustavoM]

Originally posted by Foxador:

Why would anyone judge any warbond by that ridiculous assessment?

Oh, so you play videogames to die and being a burden to the rest of your team?
I don't think so.
And before you start yapping like "Everything is good" -- that is a logical fallacy. Unless you play at diff. 4 and under.

[Foxador]

Originally posted by GustavoM:

Originally posted by Foxador:

Why would anyone judge any warbond by that ridiculous assessment?

Oh, so you play videogames to die and being a burden to the rest of your team?
I don't think so.
And before you start yapping like "Everything is good" -- that is a logical fallacy. Unless you play at diff. 4 and under.

No I just don't think warbonds should be based on their ability to make the highest diff in the game a "child's play" as you worded it. That would imply the weapons are so strong that there is no difficulty whatsoever. It implies that the weapon makes the game so easy you might as well be on Diff 1

I don't think a single weapon should make the highest currently difficulty a "child's play". If one single weapon is so strong that it trivializes the whole game, which is a "child's play", than it's too strong

[StaunchStache]

The flamethrower primary and secondary open up a lot of fun Terminids and Illuminate builds, and the Cookout is an amazing choice if you like the Incendiary Breaker but want something that actually staggers enemies.

Yes, all this works even on Super Helldive.

A solid choice for both performance and especially fun factor imo.

[Xaphnir]

There's really only one good thing from it, the Cookout. The Torcher and Crisper are cool in theory, but in practice anything close enough for you to use them on is also close enough to close the gap and hit you in melee before those weapons kill them. Only way to really reliably use it without taking damage is on enemies confused by gas or stunned, which means you're limited by orbital gas strike and stun or gas grenades (or Halt's stun rounds, but then why aren't you just killing the target you stunned with the flechette rounds?). Firebomb hellpods is mostly just a meme, more likely to kill fellow Helldivers that aren't accounting for it than it'll save deaths by killing enemies. The armor is only useful if you're using flamethrower, Torcher or Crisper, but they all suck, so it's not of much use.

However, if you want to keep using the flamethrower, I'd consider getting the armor to be fairly important, because you're probably setting yourself on fire a lot, in addition to the enemies. I personally would just drop the flamethrower, though.

[Din511]

Flame warbond is pretty baller
you can essentially use the primary flamethrower as a support weapon
the shotgun pushes away all the trouble and burns them but is ammo hungry
the pistol flamer while quickly expands ammo it will make a nice flame wall to cook anything in it while it also 1 handed
all 3 weapons are usable on all fronts (especially bug front)
and the armors are fashionable

all the stuff in it is worth having
the only bad thing about it is the booster which detonates on any pod, lots of teamkilling potentional there or a very niche type of flame build

flame warbond got alot of bad rep during the escalation of freedom due to insane mood swings from the community
if you a pyromaniac you gonna love this warbond

[Razer]

I think the flamer is the best out of all of the weapons here. I really do like the cookout because it has insane stagger, but the damage per shot is low and only has a 50% chance of igniting enemies. If you want a shotty that deals a lot of damage and always ignites enemies then take the incindiary breaker.

If you don't have Democratic Detonation yet, then better get that one first. It really allows you to combine more items in your loadout. Grenade Pistol can close bug holes and destroy factories, destroy objects. Crossbow is great allround (I personally don't like it, but many will rate this S tier weapon). And the Thermite grenade can kill any armored enemy. The Adjudicator is probably the best medium armor pen assault rifle in the game. Comes with a scope if you want to snipe. Maybe use Peak Physique though. The Eruptor is also fun to use, if a bit finicky and has very limited range for no reason.

[Nakatomi]

I love the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Cookout shotgun that noise it makes is brilliant followed by the push back and some fire damage. Its my next one for my PC as I got Urban first because of the sentries

[Khloros]

Follow your heart but i will say this on both warbonds.

Demolition: Probably the most 2 versatile weapons in the game. The crossbow is a great weapon, and can close spawns. The greande pistol is amazing because its shifts this job into the secondary slot, freeing your primary weapon up for what ever you want, and frees up your greanade slot. Which it also comes with thermite which are AMAZING, especially against bugs as it can 1 shot chargers in the legs.

Freedoms flame however, does come with possibly the best primary weapon for bugs, which is the cookout, this thing is stupid good and can hard carry you.
However beyond that, the rest of the war bond is kinda meh. Fire greandes are great but thats about it.

Between the two, demo is the better one in terms of the sheer amount of utility you get, but freedoms flame has the cookout which is really good against bugs.

Follow your heart.