Whats the lore of the helldivers? Are they clones?

[Lycon]

Like, with the losses they have and the constant re-inforcing etc. it cant all be new recruits right? They would have to run out eventually or noone would want to join if they all die.

So do they clone the current recruits and and when you die they send in a clone of you?

[Spirit]

they are kept in cryo to be send down to die a meaningless death by other helldivers on extraction

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Lycon:

Like, with the losses they have and the constant re-inforcing etc. it cant all be new recruits right? They would have to run out eventually or noone would want to join if they all die.

So do they clone the current recruits and and when you die they send in a clone of you?

Ever watched the starship troopers movie? It's basically that.

They live in a militaristic world full of BS propaganda lying about them being heroes to draw people dumb enough to enlist, then they are thrown into the meatgrinder to die horrible deaths by the millions.

The funny part is that some people IRL really did buy into the propaganda and were surprised when they found out the game was "too hard" and they were dying over and over again, so they whined and demanded the game was dumbed down, and it was, now the whole setting makes absolutely no sense, why would they keep thousands of helldivers frozen in ships if most of the time nobody, or very few of them die in a mission, and they are always successfully finishing their objectives? Who knows, but it's still a part of the game.

[dyra55]

They're not clones, they're volunteers who signed up to become helldivers, when you launch the game you see an in-universe propaganda they use to promote recruitment

And tutorial mission is set on Mars where all new helldivers pass through the training course, if they pass it they receive a cape and get sent to super destroyer cryo storage for future use

Which is a bit different to how helldivers corps was 100 years ago where they recruited the best SEAF has to offer

[General Brash]

Originally posted by VoiD:

The funny part is that some people IRL really did buy into the propaganda and were surprised when they found out the game was "too hard" and they were dying over and over again, so they whined and demanded the game was dumbed down, and it was, now the whole setting makes absolutely no sense

Which is of course BS...
It still makes sense, since this is a game meant to be entertaining.

The value of this game lies not in the number of players that are driven away, but in those that are stying and having fun

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Lycon:

Whats the lore of the helldivers? Are they clones?
Like, with the losses they have and the constant re-inforcing etc. it cant all be new recruits right? They would have to run out eventually or noone would want to join if they all die.

So do they clone the current recruits and and when you die they send in a clone of you?

Expendable single use soldiers.

[(SP)War4Ever]

Originally posted by Lycon:

Like, with the losses they have and the constant re-inforcing etc. it cant all be new recruits right? They would have to run out eventually or noone would want to join if they all die.

So do they clone the current recruits and and when you die they send in a clone of you?

Super Earth's dominion is vast and humans breed like rats. Toss in a single government controlled media arm that heavily propagandizes the glory of Super Earth and you have an unlimited stream of starry eyed recruits to be Helldivers. Doesn't the tutorial say the median age is like 18 or 19.

[Sirre]

Originally posted by Lycon:

Like, with the losses they have and the constant re-inforcing etc. it cant all be new recruits right? They would have to run out eventually or noone would want to join if they all die.

So do they clone the current recruits and and when you die they send in a clone of you?

How would the would be recruits know about those deaths? the media certainly won't tell them.
Currently there are 51 million kia helldivers in roughly one year time.
That is easily manageable by super earth standards.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by (SP)War4Ever:

Originally posted by Lycon:

Like, with the losses they have and the constant re-inforcing etc. it cant all be new recruits right? They would have to run out eventually or noone would want to join if they all die.

So do they clone the current recruits and and when you die they send in a clone of you?

Super Earth's dominion is vast and humans breed like rats. Toss in a single government controlled media arm that heavily propagandizes the glory of Super Earth and you have an unlimited stream of starry eyed recruits to be Helldivers. Doesn't the tutorial say the median age is like 18 or 19.

That sounds awfully familiar to some real life practises.

[dyra55]

Originally posted by Lycon:

it cant all be new recruits right?

They are

[Akameka]

Originally posted by Sirre:

Originally posted by Lycon:

Like, with the losses they have and the constant re-inforcing etc. it cant all be new recruits right? They would have to run out eventually or noone would want to join if they all die.

So do they clone the current recruits and and when you die they send in a clone of you?

How would the would be recruits know about those deaths? the media certainly won't tell them.
Currently there are 51 million kia helldivers in roughly one year time.
That is easily manageable by super earth standards.

Though we don't count the Voteless in that number. They are still millions of ex-citizen getting slain by Helldivers, and probably way more abducted in a few days.

I wonder what the human population in the SE dominion is suposed to be


IMO the lore kinda fail on that point. New recruits wouldn't be able to pull any mission above 5. Imagine dropping a full team of newbies with 0 prior knowledge, fresh out of the tutorial, in a dif6 or above. The mission would probably fail in less than 10 minutes

[dyra55]

Originally posted by (SP)War4Ever:

Doesn't the tutorial say the median age is like 18 or 19.

Yes, it says [Avg. Age (Years): 18.7] to be precise

[Polar Test 53]

Originally posted by dyra55:

Originally posted by Lycon:

it cant all be new recruits right?

They are

you can be extra lore accurate and leave your body type and voice on random for each time you spawn lol

[dyra55]

Originally posted by Akameka:

Though we don't count the Voteless in that number.

Nor does it count SEAF or vast civilian losses that happen on every planet attacked by enemies but it certainly happens in background

[smissmas sen-tree]

well if it was just super earth yes the amount of death would be unreasonable to all be recruits. however, we are talking about every single planet in the game, all of which have a billion people bare minimum, most likely averaging one 2025 earth's worth a planet, plus at least 20 billion on super earth itself.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by VoiD:

Ever watched the starship troopers movie? It's basically that.

Except, not at all. The world of Starship Troopers is a paradise of freedom and liberty in comparison to super earth.

To the best of our knowledge, nobody is even living on Super Earth.

Originally posted by VoiD:

They live in a militaristic world full of BS propaganda lying about them being heroes to draw people dumb enough to enlist, then they are thrown into the meatgrinder to die horrible deaths by the millions.

Meanwhile Starship Troopers brainwashes their soldiers. Anyone that is resistant to the regular, mandatory brainwashing, will never raise in rank above Private. Everyone else is scheduled for mandatory brainwashing sessions.

Super Earth doesn't even bother with that. Super Earth has a social credit program, which ensures people enlist into the army, then recruits are randomly grabbed and dropped into a compound for "basic" training. Whcih ends with them getting a cape, within 15 meters of a copy of the Helldiver Contract, which states that anyone that reads it in full or in part agrees to the Helldiver Contract. It further states that since nobody can tell what "in part" reading is fullfilled, it is assumed that everyone in 15 meters of the Helldiver contract is assumed to at least having read the contract in part.

So the second you walked into that room, you signed the Helldiver Contract.

Originally posted by VoiD:

why would they keep thousands of helldivers frozen in ships if most of the time nobody, or very few of them die in a mission

You do know there is an active, live updated, death counter of Helldivers on your ship, right? Seems to me that there are plenty of Helldivers dying.

If you don't know where that is... it is on the map selection, before you go down onto the planet map proper... on the left side. As of this writing 2760917248 Helldivers have died. With more added every second.

The more you zoom in, the more granular that number becomes.. like how many people died in that sector and such.