Enemies appearing out of nowhere

[AgeOfBacon]

CAN YOU STOP MAKING ENEMIES APPEAR OUT OF ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ NOWHERE PLEASE?
WTF is wrong with that cheap ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? I had on multiple occasions patrols literally appearing right next to me, when there were nothing at all a second before.
This is the cheapest crap in the book. That's not difficulty, that's not a challenge, that's not even fun.

[LARIO]

So real, me and others were killing one bot patrol on Blistica and I saw new patrol spawning out of thin air very close to the first one.
This is complete BS and the devs should have fixed this crap months ago, but they don't play their games or they only play on mid difficulty where it doesn't matter that much, they won't fix anything until they grow some balls and start playing on at least dif 8 and see for themselves how broken they spawn system is.

[Shy]

Welcome to HD2, get used to it, it's never getting fixed.

[0rga]

They continue to change spawn rate/distance, aggro, detection range, speed, accuracy and general behavior and we are almost back to the infinite rag-doll that we all loved so much.
If there is a way to ruin enjoyment, AH will figure it out.

[Wutever]

Scrubdiver lingo: "Right next to me."

Translation to English: "75 or more meters from me."

Originally posted by 0rga:

They continue to change spawn rate/distance, aggro, detection range, speed, accuracy and general behavior and we are almost back to the infinite rag-doll that we all loved so much.
If there is a way to ruin enjoyment, AH will figure it out.

There hasn't been a major patch in more than a month. Are these changes in the room with us?

[DrLamp]

Originally posted by Wutever:

Scrubdiver lingo: "Right next to me."

Translation to English: "75 or more meters from me."

Originally posted by 0rga:

They continue to change spawn rate/distance, aggro, detection range, speed, accuracy and general behavior and we are almost back to the infinite rag-doll that we all loved so much.
If there is a way to ruin enjoyment, AH will figure it out.

There hasn't been a major patch in more than a month. Are these changes in the room with us?

IDK man, I've had it happen with enemies about 30 meters directly in front of me. As I was watching they just popped in. No bug breach, just *poof* now they're there.

[Wutever]

Originally posted by DrLamp:

Originally posted by Wutever:

Scrubdiver lingo: "Right next to me."

Translation to English: "75 or more meters from me."


There hasn't been a major patch in more than a month. Are these changes in the room with us?

IDK man, I've had it happen with enemies about 30 meters directly in front of me. As I was watching they just popped in. No bug breach, just *poof* now they're there.

And yet nobody has been able to post a single clip in 8 months of that actually happening while people posted ♥♥♥♥ regularly when enemies were actually spawning on top of people. Interesting...

[DrLamp]

Originally posted by Wutever:

Originally posted by DrLamp:

IDK man, I've had it happen with enemies about 30 meters directly in front of me. As I was watching they just popped in. No bug breach, just *poof* now they're there.

And yet nobody has been able to post a single clip in 8 months of that actually happening while people posted ♥♥♥♥ regularly when enemies were actually spawning on top of people. Interesting...

M'kay. Keep living under your rock man.

[Wutever]

Originally posted by DrLamp:

Originally posted by Wutever:

And yet nobody has been able to post a single clip in 8 months of that actually happening while people posted ♥♥♥♥ regularly when enemies were actually spawning on top of people. Interesting...

M'kay. Keep living under your rock man.

Ahh yes. Excellent argument.

We've known exactly how enemy spawning works for ~8 months yet people still claim that enemies spawn "on top of them". I've been asking for clips of said thing happening for that entire time. Nobody has been able to provide even a single clip in those 240 days yet I am the ignorant one.

[Mahjik]

Originally posted by DrLamp:

Originally posted by Wutever:

And yet nobody has been able to post a single clip in 8 months of that actually happening while people posted ♥♥♥♥ regularly when enemies were actually spawning on top of people. Interesting...

M'kay. Keep living under your rock man.

He's not wrong. No one has ever provided evidence of this happening. There is a thin line of enemies magically appearing vs a player that didn't notice they were getting flanked by an enemy in the game.

[DrLamp]

Originally posted by Wutever:

Originally posted by DrLamp:

M'kay. Keep living under your rock man.

Ahh yes. Excellent argument.

We've known exactly how enemy spawning works for ~8 months yet people still claim that enemies spawn "on top of them". I've been asking for clips of said thing happening for that entire time. Nobody has been able to provide even a single clip in those 240 days yet I am the ignorant one.

If you ignore the dozens of people that said that they've seen it happen then yes, you ARE in fact the ignorant one. What's worse is that you're ignorant by choice.
Most people do not record as they play. The VAST majority of players aren't twitch goons that will clippit immediately.
Just go stick your head back in the sand. You seem to be more comfortable there.

EDIT: I'll be the first to admit, that last part reads more antagonistic than intended. I leave it in place though, because I feel it is still an accurate statement of my views.

[The Blind One]

Alright but there would be enough twitch players I think that would see it happen occasionally that it would be recorded wouldn't it?

I've never seen it happen to me but I have had plenty of times where I was fighting one patrol and didn't notice another patrol sneaking up behind me and wham I'm an Oreo snack to the bugs / bots.

[0rga]

Spawn has changed, again, and yes sometime patrols appears from thin air.
It's problematic as a couple of months ago? No, not yet. It's stupid? Yes.
Who deny, does not play enough or has a very limited situational awareness.

[Sesoni]

I had a charger spawn right behind me already charging (like, I was looking behind me, nothing, turned around, then immediately heard charger grunting as it mowed me down), and then I watched it literally despawn while I was staring at my corpse. I've watched entire patrols spawn in melee range behind squad mates. I've actually seen it, with eyeballs. To sit here and read people saying I'm full of sh*t is hilarious and irrelevant, as nothing you say is going to convince me it didn't happen.

People can claim all day how they "Know" how spawns and patrols work. Spoiler alert, they clearly don't. But as long as sh*t is spawning up my ass, those people and their claims are liars.

Stop playing on 5 and play on 9-10 if you want to see weird sh*t like that. It's like the game can't handle what 9-10 try to put out so it just does whatever.

[sh3riff]

For me, they dont actually appear fast enough .. more than 70% of my time i feel like doing nothing and yet i can kill 500-1000 bots per mission .. but its not enough for me

[AgeOfBacon]

Originally posted by The Blind One:

Alright but there would be enough twitch players I think that would see it happen occasionally that it would be recorded wouldn't it?

I've never seen it happen to me but I have had plenty of times where I was fighting one patrol and didn't notice another patrol sneaking up behind me and wham I'm an Oreo snack to the bugs / bots.

I want to clear it up so people know what I'm talking about.
I'm not talking about being surprised by a patrol I didn't see there before.
I'm talking about walking through an area, empty, and a second later, literally, a patrol is there, right where there was nothing before. They couldn't have walked there, I would have seen them (it was flat) or dropped, would have seen them too.

Also, patrol spawning should only happen from enemy bases, dropping, or the edge of the map. Nowhere else.