I Don't Get Bile Titan Armor

[HexeR]

I don't get it...It says that the legs, head, torso, butt, and claws are ranked at "4", but its "MAIN" (i dont know what this means) armor is ranked at 5...

https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Bile_Titan

[shnappy]

Pretty sure "main" is just the total health of the enemy, not any specific part.

Edit: For more explanation, if you destroy a non fatal body part with say 1k hp, and main had 5k hp, if you kept damaging that spot, you would be dealing damage to the main hp pool.

[HexeR]

Originally posted by shnappy:

Pretty sure "main" is just the total health of the enemy, not any specific part.

Right, but then why do my shots with the Eruptor not penetrate the armor? It has heavy armor penetration, it should penetrate the Heavy armor of the Bile Titan, but for 90% of the shots I make on it, I get that shield icon. Also, does explosive damage bypass armor? Because apparently a lot of the Bile Titan's armor is 50% resistant to explosive.

[shnappy]

Originally posted by HexeR:

Originally posted by shnappy:

Pretty sure "main" is just the total health of the enemy, not any specific part.

Right, but then why do my shots with the Eruptor not penetrate the armor? It has heavy armor penetration, it should penetrate the Heavy armor of the Bile Titan, but for 90% of the shots I make on it, I get that shield icon. Also, does explosive damage bypass armor? Because apparently a lot of the Bile Titan's armor is 50% resistant to explosive.

The explosive damage is only medium armor pen. Same with shrapnel. And it is further reduced by bad angles, outer radius fall off.

[HexeR]

Originally posted by shnappy:

Originally posted by HexeR:

Right, but then why do my shots with the Eruptor not penetrate the armor? It has heavy armor penetration, it should penetrate the Heavy armor of the Bile Titan, but for 90% of the shots I make on it, I get that shield icon. Also, does explosive damage bypass armor? Because apparently a lot of the Bile Titan's armor is 50% resistant to explosive.

The explosive damage is only medium armor pen. Same with shrapnel. And it is further reduced by bad angles, outer radius fall off.

So are you saying that I'm seeing ricochet from the "explosive" or "Shrapnel" damage? Is the main projectile still penetrating and dealing damage?

[shnappy]

Also, explosive damage works a little differently. And damage to main health isn't always 100%. If a spot is 0% to main, you can never kill it by shooting that spot cause none of the damage transfers.

[shnappy]

Originally posted by HexeR:

Originally posted by shnappy:

The explosive damage is only medium armor pen. Same with shrapnel. And it is further reduced by bad angles, outer radius fall off.

So are you saying that I'm seeing ricochet from the "explosive" or "Shrapnel" damage? Is the main projectile still penetrating and dealing damage?

With a good angle, the eruptor should damage heavy armor. I don't use it very often though. And I believe the projectile is <50% of the damage it has over all.

[Wutever]

Originally posted by HexeR:

Originally posted by shnappy:

Pretty sure "main" is just the total health of the enemy, not any specific part.

Right, but then why do my shots with the Eruptor not penetrate the armor? It has heavy armor penetration, it should penetrate the Heavy armor of the Bile Titan, but for 90% of the shots I make on it, I get that shield icon. Also, does explosive damage bypass armor? Because apparently a lot of the Bile Titan's armor is 50% resistant to explosive.

You're seeing deflection icons because the shrapnel doesn't penetrate. Only the projectile is AP4. The explosion and shrapnel are AP3.

Explosive damage does not bypass armor and is affected by explosive resistance. This is to compensate for the fact that it can hit multiple damage zones at the same time.

Main HP armor only affects damage from damage over time unless it also has a damage zone linked directly to it. For BTs this means that it won't ever die to fire damage over time unless something has changed under the hood with the fire damage changes.

[HexeR]

Originally posted by shnappy:

Originally posted by HexeR:

So are you saying that I'm seeing ricochet from the "explosive" or "Shrapnel" damage? Is the main projectile still penetrating and dealing damage?

With a good angle, the eruptor should damage heavy armor. I don't use it very often though. And I believe the projectile is <50% of the damage it has over all.

Okay, I'm just trying to confirm it because it's confusing. I see ricochet icons sometimes, I see white icons other times, and at times I even see red (which is probably due to shrapnel and explosion hitting the belly). I see the eruptor causing blood spray after it lands and explodes, but then I see a ricochet shield icon, so it looks like I'm damaging it. One time I managed to kill a bile titan with a direct hit to its leg, while other times I see shield icons even though it is NOT "bouncing" off".

They really need to clear this up.