Great Host Lore is flawed

[Welp]

The running joke is that they built all that over 100 years but as far as we know Ingame; that’s probably false.

More likely it is either some or all of their fleet they used to leave galactic space after the first war.

As much as I want it to just be some of their fleet, all of it is most likely how the devs are going to move on with the story; their whole Civ was on that fleet, so when they launched it they evaced everyone they weren’t using as invasion forces and they are most likely doing what the bots and bugs have now, a homeworld outside of the games current world map and a few more worlds inside the map.

Soon we will see that they have (for the first time) a steady presence in a few sectors in which will slowly expand closer and closer to super earth as the bug and bots did this past year

[Welp]

The attacks by the squids so far have not used their most elite units (the telepathic elite in Illuminate culture) thus is obviously due to development reasons for the game but as for lore reasons is because they couldn’t risk them, but now that a large chunk of their standing army is dead we will begin to see them overtime as we start to push into their territory and they get desperate

[St0rmFury]

The bulk of their army is former humans anyway.

[SVaughan]

Publicado originalmente por Welp:

The attacks by the squids so far have not used their most elite units (the telepathic elite in Illuminate culture) thus is obviously due to development reasons for the game but as for lore reasons is because they couldn’t risk them, but now that a large chunk of their standing army is dead we will begin to see them overtime as we start to push into their territory and they get desperate

Depends on the Galaxy they ended up in. 100 years for SE could be millennia for them in the other Galaxy. Time tends to work differently depending on multiple factors. Even some planets have time that moves at different rates than the standard 24 hours for SE.
I don't see us going through the Wormhole though. At least, not unscathed. If the Squids are tactical, then they got defenses watching that bottleneck on their end. We're going to lose plenty of ships in the initial arrival. Our best bet will be to try to find a way to close it on our end for good. If sign another peace treaty with them, like we did for HD1.

[Welp]

Lawls come on you got to have more to add then that haha.

But yes, their army is heavily reinforced by the voteless, the questions is… we kill somewhere between 50-100 overseers per mission.

We know that the tripods are autonomous as well as the Levs, they stingrays might be as well but we aren’t certain.

So the question is, not counting voteless how many illuminate have we killed really?

Also I’ve overlooked this till now but “overseer” is probably literal as they oversee the voteless

Which might mean a sub faction of the illuminate could be their telepath elite

[Singularity's Marauder]

Publicado originalmente por SVaughan:

Publicado originalmente por Welp:

The attacks by the squids so far have not used their most elite units (the telepathic elite in Illuminate culture) thus is obviously due to development reasons for the game but as for lore reasons is because they couldn’t risk them, but now that a large chunk of their standing army is dead we will begin to see them overtime as we start to push into their territory and they get desperate

Depends on the Galaxy they ended up in. 100 years for SE could be millennia for them in the other Galaxy. Time tends to work differently depending on multiple factors. Even some planets have time that moves at different rates than the standard 24 hours for SE.
I don't see us going through the Wormhole though. At least, not unscathed. If the Squids are tactical, then they got defenses watching that bottleneck on their end. We're going to lose plenty of ships in the initial arrival. Our best bet will be to try to find a way to close it on our end for good. If sign another peace treaty with them, like we did for HD1.

what

the only factor is ftl speed, but in that case the time would actually be slower for them

you dont seriously believe time flows slower on Venus or something?

or do you mean like temporal anomalies? I havent seen any in this game. But I admit I was fighting bots during Merida invasion

[Welp]

Heya SV this isn’t a full reply yo you yet but the illuminate didn’t go to another galaxy but to the void in etween them

[BrownDiapers]

i strongly think that the illuminate in HD1 was a different faction of illuminate and it took near 50 years for them to reach the other faction (the current one we fight) and cry to them about us and it took 50 years to come back here and also the stars alinged by us happening to open the wormhole to their home star system so they can bring the big bois here without travelling 50 years so now they are here to avenge their allies with their more aggressive style

[SVaughan]

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Publicado originalmente por SVaughan:

Depends on the Galaxy they ended up in. 100 years for SE could be millennia for them in the other Galaxy. Time tends to work differently depending on multiple factors. Even some planets have time that moves at different rates than the standard 24 hours for SE.
I don't see us going through the Wormhole though. At least, not unscathed. If the Squids are tactical, then they got defenses watching that bottleneck on their end. We're going to lose plenty of ships in the initial arrival. Our best bet will be to try to find a way to close it on our end for good. If sign another peace treaty with them, like we did for HD1.

what

the only factor is ftl speed, but in that case the time would actually be slower for them

you dont seriously believe time flows slower on Venus or something?

or do you mean like temporal anomalies? I havent seen any in this game. But I admit I was fighting bots during Merida invasion

Time moves slower on Venus (One day on Venus equates to 1 year for Earth). There's science fact of that one. FTL does to some degree have its own effect on how time flows. FTL realistically, is compared to Time Travel. Wherein it could be used to travel backwards in time if one so wished to do so.
And technically the Wormhole is a Time Anomaly. Anything that cuts down the distance traveled between a distant location (Such as a Void between Galaxies, or from one Galaxy to Another) is a Time Anomaly. Plus, Dark Matter is tricky. Which we used to implode Meridia. Dark Matter has weird effects on how time flows in its general region.

(It's 0600 so excuse anything that might seem iffy, the bots weren't going to destroy themselves)

[BrownDiapers]

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what

the only factor is ftl speed, but in that case the time would actually be slower for them

you dont seriously believe time flows slower on Venus or something?

or do you mean like temporal anomalies? I havent seen any in this game. But I admit I was fighting bots during Merida invasion

Time moves slower on Venus (One day on Venus equates to 1 year for Earth). There's science fact of that one. FTL does to some degree have its own effect on how time flows. FTL realistically, is compared to Time Travel. Wherein it could be used to travel backwards in time if one so wished to do so.
And technically the Wormhole is a Time Anomaly. Anything that cuts down the distance traveled between a distant location (Such as a Void between Galaxies, or from one Galaxy to Another) is a Time Anomaly. Plus, Dark Matter is tricky. Which we used to implode Meridia. Dark Matter has weird effects on how time flows in its general region.

(It's 0600 so excuse anything that might seem iffy, the bots weren't going to destroy themselves)

it takes longer for venus to rotate around its own axis coupled with how long it takes for it to rotate around sun because it is way further from sun than earth. it still has the same time it just takes longer

[Singularity's Marauder]

Publicado originalmente por BrownDiapers:

Publicado originalmente por SVaughan:

Time moves slower on Venus (One day on Venus equates to 1 year for Earth). There's science fact of that one. FTL does to some degree have its own effect on how time flows. FTL realistically, is compared to Time Travel. Wherein it could be used to travel backwards in time if one so wished to do so.
And technically the Wormhole is a Time Anomaly. Anything that cuts down the distance traveled between a distant location (Such as a Void between Galaxies, or from one Galaxy to Another) is a Time Anomaly. Plus, Dark Matter is tricky. Which we used to implode Meridia. Dark Matter has weird effects on how time flows in its general region.

(It's 0600 so excuse anything that might seem iffy, the bots weren't going to destroy themselves)

it takes longer for venus to rotate around its own axis coupled with how long it takes for it to rotate around sun because it is way further from sun than earth. it still has the same time it just taskes longer

no, venus is closer to the sun
the days take so long cause it spins very slowly.

It s year is shorter than that of Earths

[BrownDiapers]

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Publicado originalmente por BrownDiapers:

it takes longer for venus to rotate around its own axis coupled with how long it takes for it to rotate around sun because it is way further from sun than earth. it still has the same time it just taskes longer

no, venus is closer to the sun
the days take so long cause it spins very slowly.

It s year is shorter than that of Earths

sorry my bad i was just thinking that isn,t it actually closer. but still that was exactly my point

[Welp]

most of my posts are inspired from while im working and i have to type this quickly before i forget it so i apologize about my half brained ideas some times.

that being said, we shall see how things unfold but im certain its a given that the Devs will give the squids some territory and the other 3rd of the map will be covered in purple in a years time.

[Hard Computer Player]

Publicado originalmente por SVaughan:

Publicado originalmente por Welp:

The attacks by the squids so far have not used their most elite units (the telepathic elite in Illuminate culture) thus is obviously due to development reasons for the game but as for lore reasons is because they couldn’t risk them, but now that a large chunk of their standing army is dead we will begin to see them overtime as we start to push into their territory and they get desperate

Depends on the Galaxy they ended up in. 100 years for SE could be millennia for them in the other Galaxy. Time tends to work differently depending on multiple factors. Even some planets have time that moves at different rates than the standard 24 hours for SE.
I don't see us going through the Wormhole though. At least, not unscathed. If the Squids are tactical, then they got defenses watching that bottleneck on their end. We're going to lose plenty of ships in the initial arrival. Our best bet will be to try to find a way to close it on our end for good. If sign another peace treaty with them, like we did for HD1.

you should ask the public education system for a refund

[Lunaire]

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Publicado originalmente por BrownDiapers:

it takes longer for venus to rotate around its own axis coupled with how long it takes for it to rotate around sun because it is way further from sun than earth. it still has the same time it just taskes longer

no, venus is closer to the sun
the days take so long cause it spins very slowly.

It s year is shorter than that of Earths

Mass has a say on how fast time flows. That being said, I doubt the devs took that into account.(or anybody to be honest) Unless you're around the center of a black hole, you won't notice much though but then... you wouldn't exist for very long anyway.

[Welp]

Lawls I do hate how threads can get hijacked by unnecessary topics

Wish we could talk more about the original
Post but what ever