is it me or the laser revoler is bad am i missing something

[NunoTheDude(Youtube)]

why take it over the revolver? like it only has 5 shots or so b4 it reloads, ik its a laser weapon but if it takes so little u can barely shoot it is bad, its also only medium pene, so useless and redudant compared to revolver? plz elaborate for me

[RedGeneral]

infinite ammo

[CoffeeFlavored]

It's like 'auto-reload while holstered' sidearm.
Kinda good with explosive primaries or ballistic shield. Not so good on bug front tho.

[NunoTheDude(Youtube)]

Messaggio originale di RedGeneral:

infinite ammo

yes bt wait is too long no
?

[NunoTheDude(Youtube)]

Messaggio originale di CoffeeFlavored:

It's like 'auto-reload while holstered' sidearm.
Kinda good with explosive primaries or ballistic shield. Not so good on bug front tho.

oh it cools of when switched? yeah but if u can only shoot a bit its bad rigth?

[🌠Deusgo]

I like it a lot, it one shots all bots below hulks, two shots overseers to the head, 4 shots the body, look sick, and has infinite ammo with a cooldown of like 6 secs, or reload manually if in a pinch

[CoffeeFlavored]

Messaggio originale di NunoTheDude (YT):

oh it cools of when switched? yeah but if u can only shoot a bit its bad rigth?

Yeah 6 shots before overheat is really small, but its cooldown is quite fast. It's better than verdict imo.
But... yeah, I'll choose senator over talon personally.

[NunoTheDude(Youtube)]

Messaggio originale di CoffeeFlavored:

Messaggio originale di NunoTheDude (YT):

oh it cools of when switched? yeah but if u can only shoot a bit its bad rigth?

Yeah 6 shots before overheat is really small, but its cooldown is quite fast. It's better than verdict imo.
But... yeah, I'll choose senator over talon personally.

i see maybe ill have to give i another chance

[Helldivers™ 2]

No reason to pick over senator. Its only advantage is infinite ammo, but ammo should never be an issue anyway

[NunoTheDude(Youtube)]

Messaggio originale di Helldivers™ 2:

No reason to pick over senator. Its only advantage is infinite ammo, but ammo should never be an issue anyway

true

[Sirre]

Messaggio originale di Helldivers™ 2:

No reason to pick over senator. Its only advantage is infinite ammo, but ammo should never be an issue anyway

Wrong, it has much better rate of fire and essentially no recoil and you don't waste time on reloading it.

This combined with using Eruptor or any bulky primary or support weapon allows the use of peak physique armor making these weapons much more convenient to use.

Currently the "banana" is easily one of the best overall secondaries in the game.
(when used in proper configuration obviously)

[Wutever]

Messaggio originale di Helldivers™ 2:

No reason to pick over senator. Its only advantage is infinite ammo, but ammo should never be an issue anyway

If you're already running an AP4 support weapon there is no reason to also run a Senator. Before the next contender was the Verdict because it's a spammable AP3 gun with good breakpoints.

Now the Talon is a sidegrade / upgrade to the Verdict depending on preferences and what you're fighting. It has infinite ammo if used in bursts or fired slowly, more burst damage and a very nice red dot scope, but it has less sustained firepower and less durable damage.

It has some better breakpoints compared to the Verdict, but nothing significant enough to make it a straight upgrade.

Talon also has no damage fall-off, no bullet drop and has much higher muzzle velocity due to being a laser weapon, which means that it will always hit its breakpoints, while the Senator and Verdict will often lose breakpoints past close range and are generally harder to aim.

[NunoTheDude(Youtube)]

Messaggio originale di Sirre:

Messaggio originale di Helldivers™ 2:

No reason to pick over senator. Its only advantage is infinite ammo, but ammo should never be an issue anyway

Wrong, it has much better rate of fire and essentially no recoil and you don't waste time on reloading it.

This combined with using Eruptor or any bulky primary or support weapon allows the use of peak physique armor making these weapons much more convenient to use.

Currently the "banana" is easily one of the best overall secondaries in the game.
(when used in proper configuration obviously)

Peak physic? Whats that

[Helldivers™ 2]

Messaggio originale di Sirre:

Messaggio originale di Helldivers™ 2:

No reason to pick over senator. Its only advantage is infinite ammo, but ammo should never be an issue anyway

Wrong, it has much better rate of fire and essentially no recoil and you don't waste time on reloading it.

This combined with using Eruptor or any bulky primary or support weapon allows the use of peak physique armor making these weapons much more convenient to use.

Currently the "banana" is easily one of the best overall secondaries in the game.
(when used in proper configuration obviously)

Rate of fire so what? Senator destroys everything with 1 or 2 shots, 3 for hulks. And recoil is zero anyway

[Axis of Lint]

Messaggio originale di CoffeeFlavored:

Messaggio originale di NunoTheDude (YT):

oh it cools of when switched? yeah but if u can only shoot a bit its bad rigth?

Yeah 6 shots before overheat is really small, but its cooldown is quite fast. It's better than verdict imo.
But... yeah, I'll choose senator over talon personally.

It's only 6 if you fire it really fast. If you space out your shots at all you can get that number up.

[Sirre]

Messaggio originale di Helldivers™ 2:

Messaggio originale di Sirre:

Wrong, it has much better rate of fire and essentially no recoil and you don't waste time on reloading it.

This combined with using Eruptor or any bulky primary or support weapon allows the use of peak physique armor making these weapons much more convenient to use.

Currently the "banana" is easily one of the best overall secondaries in the game.
(when used in proper configuration obviously)

Rate of fire so what? Senator destroys everything with 1 or 2 shots, 3 for hulks. And recoil is zero anyway

Why claim that Senator recoil is zero? surely you know it's 43 which is quite significant.
The ability to kill hulks in the eye is of course handy when you don't have your support weapon available but those times are few and far between.

Senator is easily one of the best sidearms don't get me wrong but Talon has it's advantages and is better in certain scenarios.

Let's break it down by sacrificing a tier of penetration and some durable damage you essentially get
- over double the muzzle velocity
- no bullet drop or drag
- infinite ammo with no need to reload if used sparingly
- over triple rof in case you need to unload
- essentially no recoil which helps with repeat shots and when unloading rapidly

This is in many scenariors a rather appealing deal.