(Low FPS) CPU bottleneck?

[ChrysaLis]

Hello there.
I would like to ask for help with my problem.
I'm playing HD2 on High/Ultra, but usually get ~45-50 fps on large maps and drops to ~35 in cities or intense fight.

Is that a problem of my PC configuraion or it can be smth else?

CPU: 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11700K @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz
GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 4070 12GB
RAM: 16GB
SSD installed

[AMS]

how is this low FPS? 35 FPS is hardly noticeable and im not sure why this is such a MAJOR bottleneck to you, i play on like, 20 FPS on average, with major stuttering on level 8+. however, my fix for that is just going through task manager and ^>VVV'ing any apps that use a percentage of my cpu above like, 4%. namely discord and your browser, if your using opera gx or google chrome, they can be quite a ♥♥♥♥♥ for your CPU. if you have any fancy wallpapers, like anything animated off wallpaper engine, i'd suggest setting it to pause or just completely stop. do remember to check background processes whilst doing this

eitherway, have you tried using some nexus mod performance mods? i found them to be a major help for my 11 year old CPU. you can also try a mod to remove some of the lighter postfx & effects, things like very light fog or clouds, nothing blizzard/sandstorm/similar related though.
personally, my graphics are set to medium.

[LegPuller]

Originally posted by AMS:

how is this low FPS? 35 FPS is hardly noticeable

Yo that's actually hilarious keep the jokes coming

[VelxraTV]

Optimization bottleneck

[LegPuller]

I run the game native 1440p. I use medium settings for the most part.
I have a ryzen 7 5700x, 3060ti, 32gb.
I get a stable 60 fps, and I use loseless scaling to get 120.
I also run programs like wallpaper engine while playing the game.

I would assume that you are playing at 1440p, but are you playing at 4k? If so, you might need to lower some settings. Make sure that your ram is set to the correct speeds. The game is badly optimized so you are going to have to lower some settings to get higher fps.

[✘States]

Originally posted by AMS:

how is this low FPS? 35 FPS is hardly noticeable and im not sure why this is such a MAJOR bottleneck to you, i play on like, 20 FPS on average, with major stuttering on level 8+. however, my fix for that is just going through task manager and ^>VVV'ing any apps that use a percentage of my cpu above like, 4%. namely discord and your browser, if your using opera gx or google chrome, they can be quite a ♥♥♥♥♥ for your CPU. if you have any fancy wallpapers, like anything animated off wallpaper engine, i'd suggest setting it to pause or just completely stop. do remember to check background processes whilst doing this

eitherway, have you tried using some nexus mod performance mods? i found them to be a major help for my 11 year old CPU. you can also try a mod to remove some of the lighter postfx & effects, things like very light fog or clouds, nothing blizzard/sandstorm/similar related though.
personally, my graphics are set to medium.

No offense or anything but 35 FPS is horrible, especially if you're used to 60fps.

I had a solid 60fps all time before the update with the gloom, now during intense moments it can drop to 30, while my CPU pushes 95-100% all the time while playing, it struggles to process audio at times because of how overloaded it is with the game, so it just comes as a distorted mess.

[VelxraTV]

Originally posted by ✘States:

I had a solid 60fps all time before the update with the gloom, now during intense moments it can drop to 30, while my CPU pushes 95-100% all the time while playing, it struggles to process audio at times because of how overloaded it is with the game, so it just comes as a distorted mess.

I use to have 80-90 fps in the early days of HD2. Now 30-50 is my late game average.

[PsychicGoat]

really hard to say without more data.

also with thoese specs, im gonna guess your running at like 1440p? if you are running at that resulotion, the bottle nech might even be your gpu vram. again hard to say without more data.

best way to find out is to open task manager, and look at the performance tab, run the game at intense levels then tab over to look at the levels. whats getting maxed out? gpu or cpu, or maybe even ram. (also right click on the cpu graph to see all logical cores performance, to see if its a general cpu bottle neck or a single core performance bottle neck.

if that doesn't give enough data, you can download msi after burner to see more performance metrics

[ChrysaLis]

Originally posted by PsychicGoat:

really hard to say without more data.

also with thoese specs, im gonna guess your running at like 1440p? if you are running at that resulotion, the bottle nech might even be your gpu vram. again hard to say without more data.

best way to find out is to open task manager, and look at the performance tab, run the game at intense levels then tab over to look at the levels. whats getting maxed out? gpu or cpu, or maybe even ram. (also right click on the cpu graph to see all logical cores performance, to see if its a general cpu bottle neck or a single core performance bottle neck.

if that doesn't give enough data, you can download msi after burner to see more performance metrics

I'm playing on FullHD.

The thing why I guess that's my problem it's cause my friend always saying that he has 90+ FPS on his system:

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F OEM 2.5 GHz
GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 (or 3060Ti, I don't remember ;c)
RAM: 32 Gb

Maybe his CPU is more powerful, but I dunno.
For now I'm playing with Super-Sampling, cause without it my GPU loaded only on 37-41%.
I'm just not sure is it normal, when CPU is loading on ~70% and GPU only on ~50-60%?

[👽Shini]

You're playing at FHD?? Lower some settings, you should be good. If not, it's the CPU. Helldivers 2 is very CPU intensive for some reason.

[✘States]

Originally posted by ChrysaLis:

Originally posted by PsychicGoat:

GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 (or 3060Ti, I don't remember ;c)

Ctrl + Shift + Esc -> Performance on the left -> GPU : Clicking on it will show you the name of your GPU, or CPU. Just a little tip if you didn't know

[ChrysaLis]

Originally posted by ✘States:

Originally posted by ChrysaLis:

Ctrl + Shift + Esc -> Performance on the left -> GPU : Clicking on it will show you the name of your GPU, or CPU. Just a little tip if you didn't know

it's not mine, it's my friend's

Mine is 4070 RTX

[✘States]

Originally posted by ChrysaLis:

Originally posted by ✘States:

it's not mine, it's my friend
Mine is 4070 RTX

Oh I just read in and noticed your talking about a friend, mb

[ChrysaLis]

Originally posted by 👽Shini:

You're playing at FHD?? Lower some settings, you should be good. If not, it's the CPU. Helldivers 2 is very CPU intensive for some reason.

Which settings I can lower?
for CPU I see only see draw distance. Other ones is for GPU and lowering it lowering my GPU usage to even 30% and higher my CPU to 80%

[Magic Tofu Cat]

its just cause of all the extra efffects and things.. i mean it may run at 55 fps but as soon as you drop 3 or 4 nukes and some napalm thats a lot more too render so it using more processing.. unless you drop effects too a lower setting it may stay like this.. the alternative is get a better gpu.

if you sit on the title screen and check your fps is really high its cause its not really doing much at all.. as soon as you join a game it drops too about 60 cause of all the other things i needs too render easyist way too explain it.. might get in excess of 800fps on menu cause theres nothing hapening

[PsychicGoat]

Originally posted by ChrysaLis:

Originally posted by PsychicGoat:

really hard to say without more data.

also with thoese specs, im gonna guess your running at like 1440p? if you are running at that resulotion, the bottle nech might even be your gpu vram. again hard to say without more data.

best way to find out is to open task manager, and look at the performance tab, run the game at intense levels then tab over to look at the levels. whats getting maxed out? gpu or cpu, or maybe even ram. (also right click on the cpu graph to see all logical cores performance, to see if its a general cpu bottle neck or a single core performance bottle neck.

if that doesn't give enough data, you can download msi after burner to see more performance metrics

I'm playing on FullHD.

The thing why I guess that's my problem it's cause my friend always saying that he has 90+ FPS on his system:

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F OEM 2.5 GHz
GPU: Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 (or 3060Ti, I don't remember ;c)
RAM: 32 Gb

Maybe his CPU is more powerful, but I dunno.
For now I'm playing with Super-Sampling, cause without it my GPU loaded only on 37-41%.
I'm just not sure is it normal, when CPU is loading on ~70% and GPU only on ~50-60%?

hemmm. well if thats the case im guessing task manager isnt showing your proper gpu ussage. id recommend downloading msi after burner. i could be wrong but i bet you would see that your gpu is being used at 99%.

also, i bet your issue is your game is doing a ton of upscalling. the game seems to default to have high quality upscalling in the settings rather than just running native. that might be your issue.
or maybe its could be super high anti aliasing or somthing like that. id check your settings

i dont think that cpu should be that bad. im not sure but i think it should be fine.
check msi after burnner to see whats going on. also if your not maxing out neither your cpu or gpu, its gotta be somthing else. like ram or vram