HELLDIVERS™ 2

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Raziel Dec 19, 2024 @ 8:50am
PLAS-39 Accelerator is quite underwhelming honestly
I mean, I get that the rifle was free (Even though it was planned to not be free :)), but they could've at least made it a bit stronger.

The main issues:

The rifle has 9 rounds, and fires 3 shots each burst. That on paper is okay, but you run out of ammo incredibly quickly. The kicker though is the fact that it requires 6 rounds to kill a single overseer if each round hits their head.

The PLAS Purifier on the other hand, has 15 rounds, and only require 2 Rounds to kill an overseer. The ammo economy for Purifier VS Accelerator is just completely shrewd.

Potential fixes: I believe the Accelerator could benefit from two fire modes instead of one. One Semi, and one 3 Round burst. I also believe the gun should get a damage increase, instead of 6 rounds to kill one overseer, what about 3? It would make the gun a lot more viable and fun to use in my opinion.

The accelerator has probably the best design that resonates with me, and I would love to use it over the Purifier, but right now there is no point. I can kill 4 Overseers before I have to reload, meanwhile I can only kill 1 Overseer between reloads with the Accelerator. And if you miss a shot, then you're even more screwed.

Speaking of Accelerator, I would love an assault version of it, but with Full Auto, more ammo and less damage.

Anyone else agree?
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Tahla Dec 19, 2024 @ 8:53am 
I haven't tested the damage yet but I agree with it needing a semi auto mode, always wasting 3 shots and only having 9 in the mag feels rather underwhelming even on paper. At the very least it needs a lot more mags to make up for how much ammo it wastes and the small mag size.

As for the full auto version, we have the scorcher which does exactly that.
Last edited by Tahla; Dec 19, 2024 @ 8:54am
Raziel Dec 19, 2024 @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by Tahla:
As for the full auto version, we have the scorcher which does exactly that.
Oh, I actually haven't gotten around to unlocking Scorcher, so thats my bad lol
PhellAsleep Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:02am 
I don't remember it even being good in the Killzone game.
Raziel Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:03am 
Originally posted by PhellAsleep:
I don't remember it even being good in the Killzone game.
I guess it's lore accurate?
Shane Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:06am 
the new armour increases ammo capacity also
Vespertellino Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:08am 
They never learn anything
Cryptic Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:10am 
It works extremely well against the illuminates
Raziel Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:12am 
Originally posted by Cryptic:
It works extremely well against the illuminates
please explain more than that. not sure how using 80% of your mag to kill one overseer is "extremely well"
Temuldjin^ Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:20am 
The " PLAS-39 Accelerator " is fine, as long as you keep in mind that it is not a primary weapon but something you pull out when you need something extra.

You need to tailor your load-out with it: Like having the stalwart or a different LMG with it as your primary weapon and either the sawnoff 3 barrel shotgun or the grenade with that load-out.

The problem is just ( at least as far as i remember ) there are better options of weapons if you want to turn your primary in to the special slot and run around with an LMG as your main weapon.
Last edited by Temuldjin^; Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:21am
sel Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:23am 
wait till you try the new SMG.
total garbage, worse than the free SMG from the base game warbond. statistically worse in every way than that smg.
Objectively bad gun.

at least the sniper rifle is unique and interesting. the SMG is literally just a reskin with the fire-rate cranked up so you cant hit anything with it
Raziel Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by Temuldjin^:
The " PLAS-39 Accelerator " is fine, as long as you keep in mind that it is not a primary weapon but something you pull out when you need something extra.

You need to tailor your load-out with it: Like having the stalwart or a different LMG with it as your primary weapon and either the sawnoff 3 barrel shotgun or the grenade with that loadout.

The problem is just ( at least as far as i remember ) there are better options of weapons if you want to turn your primary in to the special slot and run around with an LMG as your main weapon.
But what is it useful for? I don't mind not using it as a primary, but it doesn't kill anything faster than Purifier. and uses more ammo. Purifier can also be used as a main weapon, so what exactly is Accelerator supposed to do? It cannot horde clear, and can barely kill any special units without having to reload constantly, so I fail to see what you're supposed to use it for besides a door stop.
S R Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:28am 
Oh man, sounds worse than I thought. I didn't need to try it to reckon it was gonna be subpar at best, but it seems it's remarkably bad, then. They really don't seem to have learned much from the 60 days to save the game initiative, going right back to what got them to lose so many players as soon as the 60 days were over. Here's hoping, I guess.
Cryptic Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:29am 
Originally posted by Raziel:
Originally posted by Cryptic:
It works extremely well against the illuminates
please explain more than that. not sure how using 80% of your mag to kill one overseer is "extremely well"
I'm able to kill even the flying overseers in 1 to 2 bursts. Depending on where you hit them. I can't help a skill issue dude.

You should have a support weapon, a secondary, and then you can use this as your primary. Each should fill a specific role and purpose. If you don't know how to use them accordingly, you should probably learn that or change what you are using. Obviously, a sniper rifle is not going to be best on a mission where you need to be constantly mobile. That's why marksman rifles were invented.

The sniper rifle in my opinion is best used on the defense type missions where you either need to evacuate citizens or hold the firebase while the rockets take off. I did use it once on a mobile mission though and I was able to do just fine.
Raziel Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by Cryptic:
Originally posted by Raziel:
please explain more than that. not sure how using 80% of your mag to kill one overseer is "extremely well"
I'm able to kill even the flying overseers in 1 to 2 bursts. Depending on where you hit them. I can't help a skill issue dude.

You should have a support weapon, a secondary, and then you can use this as your primary. Each should fill a specific role and purpose. If you don't know how to use them accordingly, you should probably learn that or change what you are using. Obviously, a sniper rifle is not going to be best on a mission where you need to be constantly mobile. That's why marksman rifles were invented.

The sniper rifle in my opinion is best used on the defense type missions where you either need to evacuate citizens or hold the firebase while the rockets take off. I did use it once on a mobile mission though and I was able to do just fine.
My man, 2 bursts is 6 rounds, out of 9 rounds. You're literally proving my point. The purifier takes 2 shots out of 15 rounds. Do the math.
Koushik Ayame Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:31am 
Burst fire in a sniper rife is one of the most counter intuitive thing you can do. This is a terrible new weapon in my opinion. I was hyped for it and was thoroughly disappointed. If you're aiming right at the head, the next two shots are very likely going to completely miss it due to the recoil

What were they thinking. Underwhelming is an understatement
Last edited by Koushik Ayame; Dec 19, 2024 @ 9:32am
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