Simple fix to the Emancipator

[黒人]

Durable damage increase from 60 to 300. There. It would solve all the problems.

[黒人]

Or if this is too much for Alexus then increase it to 200 instead. It will roughly take down a bile titan in 8 shots to the head.

[Trig_Zero]

tbh i doubt it'd make it until the end of a 300 ammo belt
but, eh, why not make it heavy pen and not have that direct impact damage bs

[Meanbastard]

Originally posted by 黒人:

Or if this is too much for Alexus then increase it to 200 instead. It will roughly take down a bile titan in 8 shots to the head.

Indeed. Pumping half your ammo straight into a bile titians head to kill it is no fun.

[Formous]

Originally posted by Trig_Zero:

tbh i doubt it'd make it until the end of a 300 ammo belt
but, eh, why not make it heavy pen and not have that direct impact damage bs

durable damage refers to damage versus armor.

[Trig_Zero]

Originally posted by Meanbastard:

Originally posted by 黒人:

Or if this is too much for Alexus then increase it to 200 instead. It will roughly take down a bile titan in 8 shots to the head.

Indeed. Pumping half your ammo straight into a bile titians head to kill it is no fun.

a fun idea tho
if we can change the ammo type on the gun
e.g. spreadshots, AP, HE, shrapnel, or just change the gun entirely
make it 4x beam cannon
that'd be so sick actually lol

[Meanbastard]

Originally posted by Trig_Zero:

Originally posted by Meanbastard:

Indeed. Pumping half your ammo straight into a bile titians head to kill it is no fun.

a fun idea tho
if we can change the ammo type on the gun
e.g. spreadshots, AP, HE, shrapnel, or just change the gun entirely
make it 4x beam cannon
that'd be so sick actually lol

Quad Quasar?

[Trig_Zero]

Originally posted by Meanbastard:

Originally posted by Trig_Zero:

a fun idea tho
if we can change the ammo type on the gun
e.g. spreadshots, AP, HE, shrapnel, or just change the gun entirely
make it 4x beam cannon
that'd be so sick actually lol

Quad Quasar?

eh, if it doesn't take forever to charge, maybe?
tbh i'd take it even if its 4x puriifier, its stil better kekw

[Trig_Zero]

Originally posted by Formous:

Originally posted by Trig_Zero:

tbh i doubt it'd make it until the end of a 300 ammo belt
but, eh, why not make it heavy pen and not have that direct impact damage bs

durable damage refers to damage versus armor.

ok and?
doesn't change the fact that it sucks

[Formous]

Originally posted by Trig_Zero:

Originally posted by Formous:

durable damage refers to damage versus armor.

ok and?
doesn't change the fact that it sucks

Because you cant flip your words and expect to look smart. You said Ammo belt. I said durable damage. IE, damage per shot vs Armor. I actually know what both terms mean.

[Meanbastard]

Originally posted by Trig_Zero:

Originally posted by Meanbastard:

Quad Quasar?

eh, if it doesn't take forever to charge, maybe?
tbh i'd take it even if its 4x puriifier, its stil better kekw

4 different guns at once. A flamethrower, gatling, laser and autocanon. Maxmim carnage.

[Trig_Zero]

Originally posted by Formous:

Originally posted by Trig_Zero:

ok and?
doesn't change the fact that it sucks

Because you cant flip your words and expect to look smart. You said Ammo belt. I said durable damage. IE, damage per shot vs Armor. I actually know what both terms mean.

the problem is even with a 300 ammo belt
won't fix the issue cuz the mechs platform sucks
its paper thin, might as well made of cardboard, it'd run faster
knowing both terms mean doesn't mean much
the problem, quote u is i look smart
i don't, i often consider myself dumb af
but even i can see the mech is broken, unfinish, what are you even on about?

[Trig_Zero]

Originally posted by Meanbastard:

Originally posted by Trig_Zero:

eh, if it doesn't take forever to charge, maybe?
tbh i'd take it even if its 4x puriifier, its stil better kekw

4 different guns at once. A flamethrower, gatling, laser and autocanon. Maxmim carnage.

ok but how will u control 4 different guns tho
if its still the same as to how the twin guns on each arm works
tapping once will only fire one of them
it'd be quite weird to burst fire laser and flamethrower

[Meanbastard]

Originally posted by Trig_Zero:

Originally posted by Meanbastard:

4 different guns at once. A flamethrower, gatling, laser and autocanon. Maxmim carnage.

ok but how will u control 4 different guns tho
if its still the same as to how the twin guns on each arm works
tapping once will only fire one of them
it'd be quite weird to burst fire laser and flamethrower

While in the mech you should be able to change the weapons in use with 1-4. 1-2 on left and 3-4 on right click. Problem solved

[ObsidianKey]

Why focus on the head, when you are probably in the same position to pop it's three green innards, and then focus on the head? Work that body body.

[黒人]

Originally posted by Formous:

Originally posted by Trig_Zero:

ok and?
doesn't change the fact that it sucks

Because you cant flip your words and expect to look smart. You said Ammo belt. I said durable damage. IE, damage per shot vs Armor. I actually know what both terms mean.

A weapon's durable damage refers to the damage it does against an enemy's durable parts. Durable damage and durable parts are not the same thing as armor penetration and armor value. So don't confuse them together.

Damage is split in two actually, durable damage and normal damage. For an example, brood commander's head is classified as a durable part. Its damage split is: 60% durable damage and 40% normal damage. A liberator's normal damage value is 60 and durable damage is 6. This means that the liberator will deal both 60% durable damage and 40% normal damage against the brood commander's head.

A single bullet from a liberator will deal this much damage: (60*0.4+6*0.6) = 27.6. And since the brood commander's head's armor value, 2, matches the liberator's armor penetration, 2, the result will be divided by two: 27.6/2 = 13.8. That's how damage calculation works.

There. Solved it for you two. Now there's no need for a measuring contest.