HELLDIVERS™ 2

HELLDIVERS™ 2

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BlaZeR Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:28am
stratgems locked behind paywalls now?
first it was weapons and now were locking stratagems???? wtf?!!
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SilentSymphony Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:29am 
yeah they said they weren't going to do that, Perhaps i should ask steam for a refund in light of this.
Last edited by SilentSymphony; Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:32am
Speed Malus Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:31am 
Still not a paywall, merely a obstacle locked behind gameplay.
Aeiku Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:32am 
Originally posted by SilentSymphony:
yeah they said they weren't going to do that.
They also said "we heard you and we're going to do better!" and continued to nerf everything driving away the 4mil sales to 15k average which is now up to 35k average after an attempt to fix it.

Originally posted by Speed Malus:
Still not a paywall, merely a obstacle locked behind gameplay.
It's not an obstacle locked behind gameplay. It's a Warbond locked behind a payment. That's a paywall. Free or real currency. It requires payment. And in this case that currency can be purchased with real money or slowly earned freely.
Last edited by Aeiku; Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:34am
Gamers again mad at one of the industries least-bad microtransaction models. By all means keep complaining, but most people are accessing the content without spending a single extra cent.

Originally posted by SilentSymphony:
yeah they said they weren't going to do that, Perhaps i should ask steam for a refund in light of this.

Lol you're in every thread like a great injustice is done to you, and it looks really goofy considering you're saying buffs to gas are actually nerfs and that you can get a refund because you're mad at nothing.
Speed Malus Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by Big Boss:
Originally posted by SilentSymphony:
yeah they said they weren't going to do that.
They also said "we heard you and we're going to do better!" and continued to nerf everything driving away the 4mil sales to 15k average which is now up to 35k average after an attempt to fix it.

Originally posted by Speed Malus:
Still not a paywall, merely a obstacle locked behind gameplay.
It's not an obstacle locked behind gameplay. It's a Warbond locked behind a payment. That's a paywall. Free or real currency. It requires payment. And in this case that currency can be purchased with real money or slowly earned freely.
Slowly only if you are barely playing the game, even then, in your own words (without even needing to twist them) "earned freely" automatically makes it not a paywall.
Brother Belial Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by Big Boss:
Originally posted by SilentSymphony:
yeah they said they weren't going to do that.
They also said "we heard you and we're going to do better!" and continued to nerf everything driving away the 4mil sales to 15k average which is now up to 35k average after an attempt to fix it.

Originally posted by Speed Malus:
Still not a paywall, merely a obstacle locked behind gameplay.
It's not an obstacle locked behind gameplay. It's a Warbond locked behind a payment. That's a paywall. Free or real currency. It requires payment. And in this case that currency can be purchased with real money or slowly earned freely.
I see you don't know what paywall means.
Aeiku Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Speed Malus:
Originally posted by Big Boss:
They also said "we heard you and we're going to do better!" and continued to nerf everything driving away the 4mil sales to 15k average which is now up to 35k average after an attempt to fix it.


It's not an obstacle locked behind gameplay. It's a Warbond locked behind a payment. That's a paywall. Free or real currency. It requires payment. And in this case that currency can be purchased with real money or slowly earned freely.
Slowly only if you are barely playing the game, even then, in your own words (without even needing to twist them) "earned freely" automatically makes it not a paywall.
Mno, a paywall is any payment necessary to unlock something. It's a payment. Fake money or real money it's payment to unlock the content. Thus a paywall.

And it's slow if you're playing the game. It's faster if you grind it. I have 200 hours and I've earned around 3k super credits? Counting warbonds and map finds with a few hours of grind.
Last edited by Aeiku; Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:45am
Mulqueeny Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:48am 
Ah the "I need everything right now mentality."

You know you can just play the game and have fun, save those super credits you find on missions.

Gives you something to work towards. I've not bought a single warbond with money and I have every one except the new one, just by playing the game. I think I'm 10sc off getting the latest warbond.
Speed Malus Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by Big Boss:
Originally posted by Speed Malus:
Slowly only if you are barely playing the game, even then, in your own words (without even needing to twist them) "earned freely" automatically makes it not a paywall.
Mno, a paywall is any payment necessary to unlock something. It's a payment. Fake money or real money it's payment to unlock the content. Thus a paywall.

And it's slow if you're playing the game. It's faster if you grind it. I have 200 hours and I've earned around 3k super credits?
Again in your own words, "payment necessary to unlock something" there is NO payment necessary, you keep saying it is not a paywall, yet in your attempts to prove its paywall, you are describing exactly how it is not a paywall.

ONLY if you stretch the meaning of payment will your "argument" stay somewhat true, but doing that. Every single thing in the game would be paywall, such as Unlocking a Stratagem, or progressing a Warbond. That would be quite silly.

It is not Paywall, you yourself have described it to not be a paywall. (Without ANY need to twist your words might I add)
Wulfen Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by BlaZeR:
first it was weapons and now were locking stratagems???? wtf?!!

How are y'all STILL struggling to earn SC in-game? As soon as you buy into a single Warbond, you only need to make 700 SC to afford the next one. Given that they are over a month apart, there's no reason you can't earn enough by playing a moderate amount in that time
JustSome_Guy Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:56am 
I haven't spent a single cent on a warbond. Not locked behind a paywall, just gameplay.
Aeiku Sep 21, 2024 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by Brother Belial:
Originally posted by Big Boss:
They also said "we heard you and we're going to do better!" and continued to nerf everything driving away the 4mil sales to 15k average which is now up to 35k average after an attempt to fix it.


It's not an obstacle locked behind gameplay. It's a Warbond locked behind a payment. That's a paywall. Free or real currency. It requires payment. And in this case that currency can be purchased with real money or slowly earned freely.
I see you don't know what paywall means.
I do but you don't.

Originally posted by Speed Malus:
Originally posted by Big Boss:
Mno, a paywall is any payment necessary to unlock something. It's a payment. Fake money or real money it's payment to unlock the content. Thus a paywall.

And it's slow if you're playing the game. It's faster if you grind it. I have 200 hours and I've earned around 3k super credits?
Again in your own words, "payment necessary to unlock something" there is NO payment necessary, you keep saying it is not a paywall, yet in your attempts to prove its paywall, you are describing exactly how it is not a paywall.

ONLY if you stretch the meaning of payment will your "argument" stay somewhat true, but doing that. Every single thing in the game would be paywall, such as Unlocking a Stratagem, or progressing a Warbond. That would be quite silly.

It is not Paywall, you yourself have described it to not be a paywall. (Without ANY need to twist your words might I add)
It is quite silly yes, but that's what paywall literally means. Alternative currency that can be gained virtually by grind or click to purchase via your country's currency. It's locked behind it. Thus a paywall.
Speed Malus Sep 21, 2024 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by Big Boss:
Originally posted by Brother Belial:
I see you don't know what paywall means.
I do but you don't.

Originally posted by Speed Malus:
Again in your own words, "payment necessary to unlock something" there is NO payment necessary, you keep saying it is not a paywall, yet in your attempts to prove its paywall, you are describing exactly how it is not a paywall.

ONLY if you stretch the meaning of payment will your "argument" stay somewhat true, but doing that. Every single thing in the game would be paywall, such as Unlocking a Stratagem, or progressing a Warbond. That would be quite silly.

It is not Paywall, you yourself have described it to not be a paywall. (Without ANY need to twist your words might I add)
It is quite silly yes, but that's what paywall literally means. Alternative currency that can be gained virtually by grind or click to purchase via your country's currency. It's locked behind it. Thus a paywall.

Ah so you ARE stretching the meaning, thank for confirming that you see paywalls in everything that moves. Please seek a therapist.
EotB Sep 21, 2024 @ 11:13am 
hol' up? haven't i seen this before? deja vu
Frost Spectre Sep 21, 2024 @ 11:15am 
I'd say it is more like a speed bump.
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Date Posted: Sep 21, 2024 @ 10:28am
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