500kg bomb is not killing Shrieker nests.

[Hero Unit]

Seems like an oversight. Eagle Cluster Bombs can one shot a Shrieker nest, but 500kg does not.

[Inardesco]

Probably because 500kg isn't directed upwards anymore like it used to.

[Hero Unit]

This is a serious issue. It's unimmersive to 500kg a Shrieker nest and have no effect on target.

[Parker9044]

Hero Unit is right this time. Its not immersive nor realistic. We should get a bunker-buster stratagem specifically designed to do massive damage like a hell bomb. It could be balanced by having 3 call-ins like the Laser.

On the bot front this would almost wipe strongholds and create craters that can be used for cover reliably.

On the bug front it would effectively kill and close those randomly generated bug holes when they call for back-up.

[🚛 Akehiko ⬛️💀🟧]

You guys approach shrieker nests?

You can just bombard them from affar

If you feel suicidal then atleast use the bombing run that has always been better than the BEEG boomba

[Parker9044]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🚛 Akehiko ⬛️💀🟧:

You guys approach shrieker nests?

You can just bombard them from affar

If you feel suicidal then atleast use the bombing run that has always been better than the BEEG boomba

I personally like to swiss cheese em with the HMG turret. That way my bullets go through all the wings in the way.

[Random Person]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Taireke:

Hero Unit is right this time. Its not immersive nor realistic. We should get a bunker-buster stratagem specifically designed to do massive damage like a hell bomb. It could be balanced by having 3 call-ins like the Laser.

On the bot front this would almost wipe strongholds and create craters that can be used for cover reliably.

On the bug front it would effectively kill and close those randomly generated bug holes when they call for back-up.

Just bring back the shredder, would be fun to use in HD2. It was basically a hellbomb turned into a missile.

Though yeah it also kinda weird the 500kg bomb can't destroy shrieker nest in a single hit. Those things don't look that sturdy, and while I can get things being unrealistic for gameplay reasons, I also don't think there's really a gameplay benefit for them two take multiple since its just forcing you do the same trivial task of calling down a 500kg bomb twice on the same stationary target.

Of course you could also just circumnavigate the issue by blowing it up from afar with a support weapon, but I don't think thats enough of a reason to ignore this.

[Hero Unit]

To add to the balance discussion of this - you can kill Shrieker nests from afar not only with your Support Weapons, but an Eruptor or Crossbow can also do the trick and it doesn't even take that much ammo to do.

This is clearly an oversight from the changes last patch and not done for balance. There is no balance argument for not allowing 500kg to destroy Shrieker nests in one hit. I'm not talking about taking all 3 nests in one hit, I am talking about a single tower of the nests not being destroyed in one hit.

That's fundamentally flawed from both an immersion and balance perspective. For both immersion and balance, the player expects 500kg to destroy the nest.

[Dakota]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 🚛 Akehiko ⬛️💀🟧:

You guys approach shrieker nests?

You can just bombard them from affar

If you feel suicidal then atleast use the bombing run that has always been better than the BEEG boomba

It's so nice that they have only 2 armor value now. I took a set of nests out with a liberator a couple days ago.

[St0rmFury]

I use the HMG emplacement for shrieker nests.

[Inardesco]

Ursprungligen skrivet av St0rmFury:

I use the HMG emplacement for shrieker nests.

Why?

Basic MG43 can take 'm out with 1mag per nest.

[Hero Unit]

I'm aware other stratagems are better at killing Shrieker nests. That's not the point. 500kg should do it in one shot for immersion and balance sake.

[St0rmFury]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Inardesco:

Ursprungligen skrivet av St0rmFury:

I use the HMG emplacement for shrieker nests.

Why?

Basic MG43 can take 'm out with 1mag per nest.

I can take them out from far.

[Doyle216]

I agree. It's not balanced.

[SG]

One word: Emancipator Exosuit

[Mitzuriki]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Random Person:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Taireke:

Hero Unit is right this time. Its not immersive nor realistic. We should get a bunker-buster stratagem specifically designed to do massive damage like a hell bomb. It could be balanced by having 3 call-ins like the Laser.

On the bot front this would almost wipe strongholds and create craters that can be used for cover reliably.

On the bug front it would effectively kill and close those randomly generated bug holes when they call for back-up.

Just bring back the shredder, would be fun to use in HD2. It was basically a hellbomb turned into a missile.

Though yeah it also kinda weird the 500kg bomb can't destroy shrieker nest in a single hit. Those things don't look that sturdy, and while I can get things being unrealistic for gameplay reasons, I also don't think there's really a gameplay benefit for them two take multiple since its just forcing you do the same trivial task of calling down a 500kg bomb twice on the same stationary target.

Of course you could also just circumnavigate the issue by blowing it up from afar with a support weapon, but I don't think thats enough of a reason to ignore this.

Oh liberty the shredder. Literally V1 Rocket from WW2