I get that the Constitution is a meme gun, but it would be nice for it to have anything that makes it even remotely useful and not just collect dust in the armory.

[ThatGuySneg]

I was genuinely hoping it would get AP4 like the Senator did. That would atleast make it a primary that could in theory kill anything it needed to (and you wouldnt need to worry about the fact of that being broken due to its god awful DPM, clip size, fire rate, etc.) Thats all i think it would need for it to be a joke gun but still something to occasionally bring out, but right now its just a gag for a week that will never be touched again.

[Frost Spectre]

Propaganda reasons, Helldivers should be given better ammunition for the Constitution, so that they can more effectively kill enemies of Democracy...

[Moonie]

Geez this generation of gamers some are just turded so bad, todays games have difficulties the early 2000 or before that didnt have and still ppl will complain. Want the devs to make more content faster and better guns then pay up dammit this community is just asking HD2 for payed season passes/warbonds and other content. Cause you wont work for free harder and better will ya? nope then why would AH should.

[Moonie]

İlk olarak Frost Spectre tarafından gönderildi:

Propaganda reasons, Helldivers should be given better ammunition for the Constitution, so that they can more effectively kill enemies of Democracy...

I have a feeling that a part of democracy is the enemies at this point and needs to be killed as they are efin annoying at this point and ruining fun. Today was supposed to be fun to get the gun but all i see is braging and whining everywhere.

[PlazaLord]

This is the Constitution. It looks and feels like it - I think you are better off waiting for a war bond weapon but they were going to add this gun regardless of anyone's opinions.(As they should... ITS THE Constitution!!!). I knew this was probably being added on liberty day from the game's release lol.

Works alright as a bot weapon if you are good with iron sights. Also Completed bugs 10 with a full team of constitution-primary wielders so if you blame someone for taking the weapon; sorry probably skill/team issue. Sure I wouldn't take it on diff 15, but that's not in the game right now.

I switch my load outs a lot and don't take the most "OP" load out I find; You get better at the game by using what you have on hand and learning more about other stratagems.

For our chronic doom-posters: Complaining does not make you better at the game.

[Onimaho]

İlk olarak Thwartgorgon75 tarafından gönderildi:

I think its fine to just have guns that you do not enjoy but other people do. You want meta, I like to just mess around with weapons that are not. Plus constitution is not bad, certainly better than in HD1.

I think you are touching on a point people just don't understand.

Also it is a skill issue. The weapon will preform poorly for a lot of people who don't think ahead and can't aim.

[Moonie]

İlk olarak PlazaLord tarafından gönderildi:

This is the Constitution. It looks and feels like it - I think you are better off waiting for a war bond weapon but they were going to add this gun regardless of anyone's opinions.(As they should... ITS THE Constitution!!!). I knew this was probably being added on liberty day from the game's release lol.

Works alright as a bot weapon if you are good with iron sights. Also Completed bugs 10 with a full team of constitution-primary wielders so if you blame someone for taking the weapon; sorry probably skill/team issue. Sure I wouldn't take it on diff 15, but that's not in the game right now.

I switch my load outs a lot and don't take the most "OP" load out I find; You get better at the game by using what you have on hand and learning more about other stratagems.

For our chronic doom-posters: Complaining does not make you better at the game.

Yea. to me it feels like now when a lot of guns are good and you cant make due with them or guns that are in their range of capabilities then its mainly a skill issue but people dont like when others are right about it. They just get more mad xD and its funny as hell

[chri]

İlk olarak Gosling tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak VIRUSOID tarafından gönderildi:

"200 year gun should blast through space robots armor like it's paper"
Bruh

"I do not understand game fundamentals because I like to throat realism so much that I cannot fully comprehend that the realm of fantasy is completely separate."

Says about the game that despite the setting has some oddly realistic, quasi-tactical shooter mechanics.

[ThatGuySneg]

İlk olarak Thwartgorgon75 tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak ThatGuySneg tarafından gönderildi:

Making the weapon actually viable would just help you enjoy the weapon more as you would be able to take it in actually circumstances that aren't just "Time to role-play the Battle of the Somme." or never since the weapon just is not very good at all (less potential, alpha, and DPM damage then the DCS for a mediocre melee boost).

And I'm far from a meta chaser, My go to load out is the base liberator with the verdict, stuns, MG, disposable AT, strafe, and precision strikes, and that was before any of those have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ buffs. We all fought for the fact that they devs would not make weapons pointlessly weaker then other weapons so i don't know why you would take this stance for this one. All it really needs to be useful is AP4 instead of 3. Maybe give it a stripper clip feature equivalent to the Senators speed loader but AP4 would at least give it a cool niche of being one of the only primary weapons to have AP4 (much like how the senator is the only secondary to have AP4)

You are not escaping the "meta" allegations when you overdo a response like that. "Hammer instead of needle" comes to mind.
Also you say the weapon is not already "viable", I say "skill issue" from my 4th super helldive with it.

İlk olarak ThatGuySneg tarafından gönderildi:

I don't understand the point of your comment.

You assume strong weapon = fun for everyone and it cannot be any other way. That is why you don't understand.

Edit: thanks for the steam points kind stranger

Sure it is a skill issue (not meaning that sarcastically). I like to think I'm above average but i am no where near as good as tons of people like those who solo things like level 9s and 10s, impossibly far from that even. I guess viable was a rather strong word to use, it has AP3 and its damage with it is enough to kill things like scout walkers or hive guard in a single load.

All that im trying to say that it doesn't seem that there is any other point of this weapon other then its lore purposes and for the occasional joke to bring on a mission. Sure it can be used effectively by plenty of people both better and worse then me, but it is still a weapon that is directly inferior to the DCS and Senator and generally outclassed by nearly all the primary weapons and even some secondary weapons.

I don't think it is a meta chaser statement to point out when weapons just aren't very good, nearly the entire community could see that almost every single weapon before the 60 day patch save for what was considered "meta" was just not very fun to play. Then after they finally fixed alot of these weapons and stratagems, reviews shot up cause people could finally be creative and take unique builds and do well with them instead of being required to bring AT and other things that felt like auto includes such as impact nades and impact incen.

[Cloud Roller]

Honestly, since it's classified as a sniper weapon, I think that in order for it to actually compete, I do agree it should have heavy armor penetration like the revolver, especially given the Constitution's cartridge size. I get that, lore wise, it's issued to Super Citizens who just turned 16, but still, it could really be useful if given that additional stat. Think of it like this if you're taking the sniping route. The Counter Sniper has more ammo and a faster rate of fire, but can't damage heavy units. The Constitution would be the opposite of this. Less ammo in the chamber and slower rate of fire, but can damage heavies and the bayonet gives it increased melee range and damage. A scope and strip clip for faster reloading would be nice too, so you don't have to reload all 5 rounds individually, since it's the year 2184 in Helldivers 2. You'd think a strip clip would be made and mass produced for all Constitution rifles. Regardless, whether this is a joke gun, or not, it still has the potential to be useful to all Helldivers, regardless of difficulty

[Gibbe]

İlk olarak Omegon (No Relation) tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak VIRUSOID tarafından gönderildi:

"200 year gun should blast through space robots armor like it's paper"
Bruh

A rifle from WW1, one century ago, will blast through medium armor today. It takes level III or IV to reliably stop a century old bullet from punching your ticket.

It does do that, it is medium armor penetrating.

[Balthazar the Magnificent Dog]

Its a melee weapon, that happens to shoot a few bullets.

Like a shotgun axe.

[JimmyD]

İlk olarak Balthazar the Magnificent Dog tarafından gönderildi:

Its a melee weapon, that happens to shoot a few bullets.

Like a shotgun axe.

Now I want a shotgun axe

Too bad the forum will fill the first three pages with new posts complaining that the shotgun axe won't one tap factory striders and that it doesn't have a 100 round drum with a built in jetpack

[Sherman]

it would be more than viable if not extremely good if it had a 10 round magazine and a magnified optic of some sort. it might not be the best after that but i would use the hell out of it

[APOSTATE]

İlk olarak Omegon (No Relation) tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak VIRUSOID tarafından gönderildi:

"200 year gun should blast through space robots armor like it's paper"
Bruh

A rifle from WW1, one century ago, will blast through medium armor today. It takes level III or IV to reliably stop a century old bullet from punching your ticket.

HD2 does not take place in the modern world. They have stronger armor, powerful firearms, and better ammunition.

[Dukey Nukey]

Eh, stripper clips I can get behind. As for the rest? It's a recreation of a WW1 firearm that has only ever been used for 21 gun salutes ever since, and even then it's a decent enough gun if you can figure out how to use it. It just has a learning curve but I'm happy with it.