The Hunting Shotgun support weapon...

[Frost Spectre]

It should have atleast half or full spare ammo, it would make it more usable in a moment if you need a gun...
It having just 2 in chamber is very pointless, and it being gun you pick when you're desperate, makes it very unusable.

[Dwolite]

There is a hunting shotgun support weapon?

[Koala 4peace]

Originally posted by dwolite:

There is a hunting shotgun support weapon?

The break-action that's randomly spawned in maps, i think they mean.

[ItzPress]

The break-action shotgun is mostly there for flavor, sometimes you rarely see support weapons around and the shotgun is there for the weakest RNG pick probably. This is why it comes just fully loaded with no reserve ammo as most other pickups do, and relies on resupplying or scavenging.

It's practical use is basically if you decided to go support-weaponless, can't get a spare from an ally and managed to find it.

Since it's not meant to be a very practical weapon I think it's fine as it currently is, it's basically an alternative to not finding anything at all. Usually you want the RNG blessing and find a more practical support weapon though. It's not like you select it as a part of your loadout so it must be made and designed a competitive option.

[Dwolite]

Ah, ok. The break-action shotgun. It is equitable as a support weapon, just not actually a summon-able support weapon. Gotcha. But in its defense, it is meant to be rather crappy... it exists in-game as simply the "normie" gun that is dropped by civilians who have already been killed. The fact that they made it an actual gun you can equip is rather surprising, really, and is rather neat.

[Aethrys]

It should spawn totally empty to reflect that its owner went down shooting.

[Chaos]

If it was any good, it's old owner wouldn't be dead where you pick it up now is it?

[Foxador]

Originally posted by Chaos:

If it was any good, it's old owner wouldn't be dead where you pick it up now is it?

Same could be said for any and all weapons that you drop when you die

The break action shotguns actually a pretty decent weapon even tho it's never been touched since the start of the game. It has a super tight spread on it's pellets allowing you to hit targets 50m+ out with almost all pellets hitting the target. According to the wiki it does 600 damage total per shot which is pretty good

[Bad Hombre DC]

They should just make the thing a primary that you can pick tbh. It's a decent gun and fun to use but an absolute waste of a support slot. Not much point in having it in the game the way it is currently.

[Chaos]

Originally posted by Foxador:

Same could be said for any and all weapons that you drop when you die

The break action shotguns actually a pretty decent weapon even tho it's never been touched since the start of the game. It has a super tight spread on it's pellets allowing you to hit targets 50m+ out with almost all pellets hitting the target. According to the wiki it does 600 damage total per shot which is pretty good

Is it?
When I die, it's either the big bugs or the hoard of hunters.

But from the looks of it, these farmer just got offed by a bunch of warriors, which is all this gun can handle since it's an AP2 40 shots gun with no other utility... that take support slot.

Tho having it as an primary weapon could be interesting, just got to pump that AP higher then it can be the Punisher bigger brother.

[Foxador]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Is it?
When I die, it's either the big bugs or the hoard of hunters.

But from the looks of it, these farmer just got offed by a bunch of warriors, which is all this gun can handle since it's an AP2 40 shots gun with no other utility... that take support slot.

Tho having it as an primary weapon could be interesting, just got to pump that AP higher then it can be the Punisher bigger brother.

It was more me just poking at your phrasing as you dismissed the weapon as junk because "well they died so it wasn't any good anyways." Plus you're only seeing what they killed, not what killed him. If he got killed by a pack of hunters they would've left to do whatever else bugs do when we're not around. When you die, that same phrase could be said as you're dead. Only you're the MC here so you get to respawn. Warriors also do about 60 damage a hit so they have the means to two shot us in medium armor and almost one shot you in light armor. Just saying that while they're glass cannons as they pack a powerful hit

Regardless, I think you dismiss the gun too much but I do agree that it's not worth a support weapon slot and would be better served as a primary. The weapon it's self is still super accurate for a shotgun and does 600 damage per shot which means it can handle a lot more than you're giving it credit for. If it wasn't a support weapon it wouldn't be too bad having around and I'm sure it would've been buffed in some fashion or another. I doubt they would give it medium pen tho as only the slugger has that currently for the shotguns

As a random gun laying around on the map tho, it's not bad for the times you wanna drop into a fight without a support gun which I do on certain loadouts that don't require one

[Chaos]

Originally posted by Foxador:

It was more me just poking at your phrasing as you dismissed the weapon as junk because "well they died so it wasn't any good anyways." Plus you're only seeing what they killed, not what killed him. If he got killed by a pack of hunters they would've left to do whatever else bugs do when we're not around. When you die, that same phrase could be said as you're dead. Only you're the MC here so you get to respawn. Warriors also do about 60 damage a hit so they have the means to two shot us in medium armor and almost one shot you in light armor. Just saying that while they're glass cannons as they pack a powerful hit

Regardless, I think you dismiss the gun too much but I do agree that it's not worth a support weapon slot and would be better served as a primary. The weapon it's self is still super accurate for a shotgun and does 600 damage per shot which means it can handle a lot more than you're giving it credit for. If it wasn't a support weapon it wouldn't be too bad having around and I'm sure it would've been buffed in some fashion or another. I doubt they would give it medium pen tho as only the slugger has that currently for the shotguns

As a random gun laying around on the map tho, it's not bad for the times you wanna drop into a fight without a support gun which I do on certain loadouts that don't require one

Fair enough that 600 a shot is one of the better burst our shotgun have rn.
Tho the main downside of taking support slot still remain.
If AH ever thought about turning this joke weapon into something we can use in our arsenal, they should either make it a primary and buff it a bit... or make it a support slot shotgun with even more booster stats and AP.

Beside I have a rather crap experience with back during my noob day so I may be bias against it a "bit".

[Foxador]

Originally posted by Chaos:

If AH ever thought about turning this joke weapon into something we can use in our arsenal, they should either make it a primary and buff it a bit...

I agree. On the subject of joke guns, everything I've heard so far has pointed at the new gun we're getting to be a joke / meme gun so I'm waiting for the complaints about that once we get it

[Chaos]

Originally posted by Foxador:

I agree. On the subject of joke guns, everything I've heard so far has pointed at the new gun we're getting to be a joke / meme gun so I'm waiting for the complaints about that once we get it

Which one? there are like 3 guns in there.
Tho I don't have any hope for any of them.

AH usually release gun pre-nerfed then buffs it later if people complain about it hard enough.
And I doubt this time will be different.
I hope was wrong, but it's becoming a pattern.

[Foxador]

Originally posted by Chaos:

Originally posted by Foxador:

I agree. On the subject of joke guns, everything I've heard so far has pointed at the new gun we're getting to be a joke / meme gun so I'm waiting for the complaints about that once we get it

Which one? there are like 3 guns in there.
Tho I don't have any hope for any of them.

AH usually release gun pre-nerfed then buffs it later if people complain about it hard enough.
And I doubt this time will be different.
I hope was wrong, but it's becoming a pattern.

The meme gun that we're getting for liberty day. It was a meme gun you used in helldivers 1 for challenge runs and to be silly. It's a WW1 rifle

[Chaos]

Originally posted by Foxador:

The meme gun that we're getting for liberty day. It was a meme gun you used in helldivers 1 for challenge runs and to be silly. It's a WW1 rifle

Ah that gun.

Personally I'm more excited for the bayonet that come with it rather than the gun itself lol.

This could be a prototype for enhance melee tech... or it might just be a cosmetic and we will do rifle butt with it anyway.

Back to the gun itself.
It was okay in the first game, definitely not top tier but decent enough if you try HARD enough.
Mostly use it as a spear back then tho.

Tho I doubt it would be as good here since we go 3D and all.
And the leak I saw of it doesn't look promising.

But with enough vitriol, I'm sure AH will figure something out... or not.
This is a free joke gun after all.