P4-Senator is perfectly balanced

[เกมหมา]

The only thing they need to fix Senator is Annoyed reload animation that sometime it didnt register correctly and the character decide not to reload any round


The rest is perfectly balanced when you pair with other sidearm


"IT CAN Damage Heavy armor, it does't mean it good at it " Durable is Crap

IT TOOK HALF OF YOUR AMMO RESERVED JUST TO KILL THE CHARGER


Time is essential in this game . The more time you took killing ♥♥♥♥ the more likely you will get run over .


for those who complain . i wish to see them in the fish tank using they overpower Senator brawling with just 2-3 charger and see how they handle it

[VIRUSOID]

So, why does it need ap4 again?

[เกมหมา]

Originally posted by VIRUSOID:

So, why does it need ap4 again?

Because it make you hit the Medium armor ( Armor 3 ) with 100% of your damage

Hitting it with the same Armor value only apply around 65% damage .


Aint you read the patch note 01.001.100 ?

[VIRUSOID]

Originally posted by Kryrkvitarion:

Originally posted by VIRUSOID:

So, why does it need ap4 again?

Because it make you hit the Medium armor ( Armor 3 ) with 100% of your damage

Hitting it with the same Armor value only apply around 65% damage .


Aint you read the patch note 01.001.100 ?

But why would you want to shoot medium armor with the side arm? Main and support guns kill them much more easily. And there are better guns for side arm slot

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by VIRUSOID:

Originally posted by Kryrkvitarion:

Because it make you hit the Medium armor ( Armor 3 ) with 100% of your damage

Hitting it with the same Armor value only apply around 65% damage .


Aint you read the patch note 01.001.100 ?

But why would you want to shoot medium armor with the side arm? Main and support guns kill them much more easily. And there are better guns for side arm slot

Because damn near every bot is Medium Armor
Because your primary and/or support is a Light AP weapon
Because you don't have your support weapon
Because you need to reload and there's a rocket strider

[Logen Neuf-Doigts]

Originally posted by VIRUSOID:

Originally posted by Kryrkvitarion:

Because it make you hit the Medium armor ( Armor 3 ) with 100% of your damage

Hitting it with the same Armor value only apply around 65% damage .


Aint you read the patch note 01.001.100 ?

But why would you want to shoot medium armor with the side arm? Main and support guns kill them much more easily. And there are better guns for side arm slot

i can think of many but here's an example
let's say you're running recoiless and blitzer , a hive guard is about to backstab your teamate
do you
- send a 500kg on it
- recoiless the hive guard with HE round
- blitzer you friend and the hive guard
- 2 tap the hive guard with senator

[เกมหมา]

Originally posted by VIRUSOID:

Originally posted by Kryrkvitarion:

Because it make you hit the Medium armor ( Armor 3 ) with 100% of your damage

Hitting it with the same Armor value only apply around 65% damage .


Aint you read the patch note 01.001.100 ?

But why would you want to shoot medium armor with the side arm? Main and support guns kill them much more easily. And there are better guns for side arm slot

-Because i using the explosive weapon and Medium are get close
-Because senator 2-3 head shot is much more time efficently than using Primary to scrathing their head
-Because you can 4 shot in the hulk visor in close range


Verdict is also good alternative choice for have some room for error and slight better at add clearing .

but for Majoris focus . Senator is much better ( Except Reloading this ♥♥♥♥ need to be improve )

[VIRUSOID]

Originally posted by Logen Neuf-Doigts:

Originally posted by VIRUSOID:

But why would you want to shoot medium armor with the side arm? Main and support guns kill them much more easily. And there are better guns for side arm slot

i can think of many but here's an example
let's say you're running recoiless and blitzer , a hive guard is about to backstab your teamate
do you
- send a 500kg on it
- recoiless the hive guard with HE round
- blitzer you friend and the hive guard
- 2 tap the hive guard with senator

500kg ofc
Seriously tho, I would zap them with blitzer
Player will survive and bug will be stunned
+ on bug front I would never give my side arm slot to anything except grenade pistol

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Originally posted by VIRUSOID:

But why would you want to shoot medium armor with the side arm? Main and support guns kill them much more easily. And there are better guns for side arm slot

Because damn near every bot is Medium Armor
Because your primary and/or support is a Light AP weapon
Because you don't have your support weapon
Because you need to reload and there's a rocket strider

All infantry bots can be killed with light pen btw
If you're not going for the head then you're doing something wrong
And don't forget I also have grenades

[Brother Belial]

Originally posted by VIRUSOID:

Originally posted by Kryrkvitarion:

Because it make you hit the Medium armor ( Armor 3 ) with 100% of your damage

Hitting it with the same Armor value only apply around 65% damage .


Aint you read the patch note 01.001.100 ?

But why would you want to shoot medium armor with the side arm? Main and support guns kill them much more easily. And there are better guns for side arm slot

Not everyone takes a MAP weapon, some people likek my self, like LAP weapons because they are easier to use and have less recoil. Also the tenderizer sights are not borked at range. so if you can aim, you had head shot most things at range.

[Kortek]

It takes 3 shots to the hulk visor and roughly 2 mags to kill a tank (vent or weakspot not sure tbh).

[Exolden]

"IT TOOK HALF OF YOUR AMMO RESERVED JUST TO KILL THE CHARGER"

So slightly better than most AT weapons at launch?

[Kortek]

Originally posted by VIRUSOID:

So, why does it need ap4 again?

It does not I guess? It could have AP3 but ignore tier 3 armour instead, or in other words the durable damage would be same as the regular one.

[Spartykins]

as long as it can headshot hulks I'm fine with whatever happens to it

[เกมหมา]

Originally posted by Exolden:

"IT TOOK HALF OF YOUR AMMO RESERVED JUST TO KILL THE CHARGER"

So slightly better than most AT weapons at launch?

Fair enough

[Sirre]

Instead of Primary/Secondary they should just have Weapon slot 1 and Weapon slot 2 so that people would lose the mentality that "secondaries" should be unusable garbage.

Nothing wrong in having a handcannon in the game people...