HELLDIVERS™ 2

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Nani Sore Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:33pm
Commando can shoot four rockets and is meta
Yet the quasar cannon remains painfully nerfed especially against an impaler that requires three leg shots to kill. Even if you hit every shot its like four hours to kill a bile titan or an impaler with it.

No one uses the EAT anymore because four instant shots is better.

I dont understand the whole nerf cycle, instead of making all of these types of weapons viable they just keep nerfing everything and then introducing a new meta. It makes the game boring when there is only one option.
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Person Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:35pm 
i find quasar cannon useful against bots
0 SH00B3RT 0 Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:46pm 
That's Arrowhead for you. Trying to kill metas while, at the same time, reinforcing a current meta or reinforcing a new meta.
MagikarpMagi Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:50pm 
Quasar is penalized too hard for its only advantage to be infinite EATs.
Forblaze Aug 11, 2024 @ 7:53pm 
Commando is fairly bad against bugs, imo. Impalers are much better killed by airstrikes or OPS and vs chargers it's the same potential as a single EAT call in with double the cooldown.

I've more or less settled on EAT being my preferred bug support weapon with the recoilless rifle being a close second. The commando just really isn't even close.

Against bots, commando is good as a way to snipe cannon turrets and tanks but that's really it. Definitely an important thing to have but not really usable as your only support weapon.
μ Aug 11, 2024 @ 8:29pm 
Originally posted by Dark Abyss:
No one uses the EAT anymore because four instant shots is better.

Just use both...
darkblade Aug 11, 2024 @ 8:33pm 
Originally posted by Forblaze:
Commando is fairly bad against bugs, imo. Impalers are much better killed by airstrikes or OPS and vs chargers it's the same potential as a single EAT call in with double the cooldown.

I've more or less settled on EAT being my preferred bug support weapon with the recoilless rifle being a close second. The commando just really isn't even close.

Against bots, commando is good as a way to snipe cannon turrets and tanks but that's really it. Definitely an important thing to have but not really usable as your only support weapon.

Cant a eat destroy the back leg armor of the impaler so that you can finish it with normal weapons
Arjunta Aug 11, 2024 @ 8:39pm 
I carry Quasar against bugs only to nuke Spores and Shriekers from a distance with a bonus for Chargers and Titans. Haven't killed enough impales with it to decide how useful it its.
Sanglaine Aug 11, 2024 @ 8:52pm 
Dude. They made the Crossbow 1handed because they didn't know what to do with it. They don't know what they're doing. Don't try to understand the logic it will only hurt your brain.
Foxador Aug 11, 2024 @ 8:53pm 
The impaler actually takes less damage from AT rockets/weapons for some reason... It's actually way easier to kill them with other weapons like the HMG or grenade launcher
Foxador Aug 11, 2024 @ 8:54pm 
Originally posted by Sanglaine:
Dude. They made the Crossbow 1handed because they didn't know what to do with it. They don't know what they're doing. Don't try to understand the logic it will only hurt your brain.

They know what they want to do with it, the problem is they have three different ideas of what they want it to do and they all contrast with themselves and they keep changing it on a whim

It started out as a short range big AoE damage weapon. Then it got changed to a wannabe scorcher (that's what Alexis said he wanted when he changed it) and now it's a one handed weapon that sucks as both roles and fires too slowly to be relevant
Sanglaine Aug 11, 2024 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by Foxador:
They know what they want to do with it, the problem is they have three different ideas of what they want it to do and they all contrast with themselves and they keep changing it on a whim

It started out as a short range big AoE damage weapon. Then it got changed to a wannabe scorcher (that's what Alexis said he wanted when he changed it) and now it's a one handed weapon that sucks as both roles and fires too slowly to be relevant
Now, now. Don't Blame Alexus for this. He only tanked another game completely before hopping aboard this one and ruining it. Can't blame him for the crossbow change just because he said that. Especially since it didn't function like a scorcher at all. Definitely not his fault. Definitely.
It's confirmed that the Commando will be nerfed in a future patch. You wont have to worry about this disparity for too much longer.

Also FYI for impaler, either always take an orbital precision for the instant-kill or switch your Stalwart/MG/HMG up to max fire rate while it plunges its tentacles in the ground, and unload in the gigantic weakspot it exposes.
Last edited by Hand's Hermit Permit; Aug 11, 2024 @ 8:59pm
MagikarpMagi Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:00pm 
Originally posted by Foxador:
The impaler actually takes less damage from AT rockets/weapons for some reason... It's actually way easier to kill them with other weapons like the HMG or grenade launcher

It seems to react to weapons similarly to the spitters, who also don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if you hit them with AT weapons.
ItzPress Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:08pm 
I know people are for whatever reason eager to complain that their favorite weapon got nerfed but thinking about things just a bit through lets some easy ideas be known as to why something may have happened.

The Quasar clearly competes with the likes of rocket launchers and the biggest one it'll be compared to is naturally the recoilless rifle. It has 3 speeds of recharge to account for; cold planet, regular, and hot planet. Back then the regular recharge time was 10s, while a recoilless reload is something around to under 5. It's only in more favor of the Quasar for this comparison to be on a cold planet.

A nerf to the Quasar Cannon was always acceptable, it recharged some too fast, and it's niche (as it is achieving currently) is being your sporadic yet infinite source of rockets. You want faster takedowns, you would go the recoilless, or you could go EATs for something (as the name suggests) more expendable. You can now go the Commando for an enhanced version of the expendables essentially.

That was why it was meta. Now it's in line with the other options, and something I bring if I'm in the mood, because there's now successful build diversity at hand with options not necessarily overshadowing each other as a general note.

Talking about it being bad on the Impaler is a bit of a nothingburger as it's just an enemy in question that DPS on the head when exposed is more ideal on than armor-stripping tactics. Quasar Cannon, being the AT weapon type that's designed around sporadic and unlimited use, of course is going to do poor in the idea of how speedily a takedown it can do on an Impaler. This is just bad play and build or expectations.
tom tomorrow Aug 11, 2024 @ 9:17pm 
An impaler dies to a single orbital gatling. Who tf is using their support weapons to take out impalers?
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