the vote on discord says the patch is fine

[Bliff]

there is a poll on the helldivers discord about the patch
40% (22,381 ppl) im neutral / not sure (my interpretation was dont give an F)
27% (15,191 ppl) love it
33% (18,177 ppl) It's Bad
so ether you ppl need to go vote or its just the minority that are unhappy

im in the neutral group i didnt use the flame thrower or the shotgun so the update never really effected the way i play the game.
it is funny seeing all the hate on steam forums and the poll showing most of the ppl playing really dont care all that much about the changes on discord where the devs actually look at ppls comments and opinions

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robert.s_a님이 먼저 게시:

So...biggest update for months and 73% of the playerbase either hate it or don't care about it.

I'm not sure you are "Owning the haters" with that figure, champ.

ye thats true but i dont see that being how arrow heads ppl will read it will they, come on lets be real here its going to be seen as ppl dont mind the changes and the ppl that like the changes vs those that dont like the changes

[Jiffypop]

Faaxen님이 먼저 게시:

Jiffypop님이 먼저 게시:

By your logic, the minority of players are enjoying it. The majority are not or "don't give a an F"

Hmm well you see, "Not Giving An F" still remains in the territory of positivity contrary to outright disliking something.

I consider myself as someone who doesn't care for the changes outside of bug/exploit fixes and yet i'm surprisingly more drawn to a positive take than a negative one.

No it does not lmao. Not giving an F is supposed to be neutral, and for some it can easily be translated as a negative connotation if they don't speak English as a first language (assuming the poll has it worded as "I don't give a ♥♥♥♥" about "How do you view the update" or something.). You are literally grasping at straws despite the overwhelming evidence that a MAJORITY of people really do not like this update.

[DOOM]

Jiffypop님이 먼저 게시:

KingOfFriedChicken님이 먼저 게시:

Thats 1 way to twist statistics lol why even include the don't care option? The only real reason is to skew it if you ask me, if they didn't include it.... well

Thats 33,368 votes and it calculates out to

45.525653% love it
54.474347% are complaining

So more people have complaints theb love it which is obvious even without % because the number is literally bigger lol

*Footnote
Remember, this is on the Helldivers discord server too. View is heavily in favor of Helldivers 2 since most people bemoaning the game either don't join a discord server, or were banned by the powertripping mods a few months ago.

Yeah i stopped using it after i got a 24 hour timeout for asking about the psn drama at the time.

[𝙈𝙚𝙜𝙖𝙡𝙤]

Sry I'd help but someone got upset over a vomit emoji and banned me.

[Hiorka]

It's like people dropped the Discord server as the game went to ♥♥♥♥ but maintain a Steam account because it has their entire library of games or something.

It's not like anyone's happy AH keeps ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the bed here. Do people feel vindicated? Sure, but that's a cheap substitute for the joy HD2 gave on release.

[Vipus]

You mean the place where mods ban users for merely disliking furry art? If even in that echo chamber this update is getting this many dislikes and "meh" reactions, it's pretty safe to assume this is not going the way Arrowhead expected.

[Sasha Mason]

Imo they shouldn't have included a neutral option.
Just a Yay or Nay option would be fine, else we might as well count everyone who saw the poll and opted not to vote also into "Neutral" because they do not care enough to even vote to begin with.

[DOOM]

Jiffypop님이 먼저 게시:

Faaxen님이 먼저 게시:

Hmm well you see, "Not Giving An F" still remains in the territory of positivity contrary to outright disliking something.

I consider myself as someone who doesn't care for the changes outside of bug/exploit fixes and yet i'm surprisingly more drawn to a positive take than a negative one.

No it does not lmao. Not giving an F is supposed to be neutral, and for some it can easily be translated as a negative connotation if they don't speak English as a first language (assuming the poll has it worded as "I don't give a ♥♥♥♥" about "How do you view the update" or something.). You are literally grasping at straws despite the overwhelming evidence that a MAJORITY of people really do not like this update.

I dont care is the same as a neutral vote. Anyone trying to twist that as them being on their side is being completely dishonest with their argument.

[Bliff]

Jiffypop님이 먼저 게시:

Faaxen님이 먼저 게시:

Hmm well you see, "Not Giving An F" still remains in the territory of positivity contrary to outright disliking something.

I consider myself as someone who doesn't care for the changes outside of bug/exploit fixes and yet i'm surprisingly more drawn to a positive take than a negative one.

No it does not lmao. Not giving an F is supposed to be neutral, and for some it can easily be translated as a negative connotation if they don't speak English as a first language (assuming the poll has it worded as "I don't give a ♥♥♥♥" about "How do you view the update" or something.). You are literally grasping at straws despite the overwhelming evidence that a MAJORITY of people really do not like this update.

its listed as im neutral / not sure i will update the post and remove my bias

[LunarGatta]

Bliff님이 먼저 게시:

there is a poll on the helldivers discord about the patch

Yeah, I'm sure that's an accurate poll considering a huge amount of players are banned from the discord over absurd reasons.

I got banned myself from the discord and had someone look at it and they were confused why I got banned because I broke no rules and it was lifted. I actually cared to pester them to look into it and tell me exactly why I was banned, most people don't.

Any polls done on discord are honestly invalid due to the insane amount of bans that were handed out for absurd reasons.

[ObsidianKey]

Megalo님이 먼저 게시:

Sry I'd help but someone got upset over a vomit emoji and banned me.

Hear! Hear! 🤮

[Sasha Mason]

LunarGatta님이 먼저 게시:

Bliff님이 먼저 게시:

there is a poll on the helldivers discord about the patch

Yeah, I'm sure that's an accurate poll considering a huge amount of players are banned from the discord over absurd reasons.

I got banned myself from the discord and had someone look at it and they were confused why I got banned because I broke no rules and it was lifted. I actually cared to pester them to look into it and tell me exactly why I was banned, most people don't.

Any polls done on discord are honestly invalid due to the insane amount of bans that were handed out for absurd reasons.

Thank you for letting me know, I'll be sure to steer clear of that Discord.
Honestly the amount of people in here saying stuff like that about the server, I dont think it's coincidence. That poll is worthless, then.

[Vandom]

Such a horrible way to get polling data.

The proper way to get feedback is to make an extensive poll accessible to more players What level players are, what loadouts they use, diff they play at. Then ask them about every weapon and stratagem.

That would be a starting point, and if after that the devs put in the effort, I would happily support nerfs to the BI and changes to the FT. This patch was just lazy, making hardly any changes, half of them bad with the current state of things.

But they just asked a vague question to those in their echo chamber discord. A questions that I'd technically vote neutral since I like the new content, but hate the horrible balance decisions being made.

[Welbert Asker]

it's because they banned half the actual player base. furries will always white knight this game

[Zephyr]

Well that explains a lot of things... This is why devs should NEVER trust only their Discords, because they will only hear fans, or mostly fans react, instead of what the majority of the playerbase thinks.

Breaking down your community to small controlled spaces is the best way to lose completely touch with the reality.

In fact, it's true out of video games, If you gather people you like or tolerate, and keeps your group gated, you obtain an echo chamber. And this creates the kind of isssues we have seen those last years.

[ObsidianKey]

New Helldivers 2 CEO says: dev-player relationships are more 'doctor/patient'

When was the last time the hospital asked the patients for advice on how to preform medical procedures?