What escalation of freedom should have been

[Inardesco]

• New Escalation Warbond free for all players!
o 10 pages filled with armour, weapons, emotes, boosters and ship upgrades
o Notable unlocks:
 Storage facility: Increases sample caps by 50%
 Cabinet of Freedom: Increases Medal cap by 50%
• Supercolonoy/Superbase rewards including the following:
o Automaton “intelligence”
 Ammo slots: Unlock various forms of ammo for your weapons.
 Armour improvements: Improve your armour with various perks.
o Terminid physiology
 Pheromones: Grenades that affect the behaviour of Terminids.
 Anatomy: Have a better understanding of Terminid anatomy which increases the effectiveness against their weak spots.
• New Terminid and Automaton enemies!

• Bug Fixes:
o Automaton and Terminid forces now respect the same collision boxes as Helldivers. No more phasing through walls.
o Bile Titan no longer ignores headshot damage.
o Patrols have been adjusted. Previously the game did not check how many patrols were in existence before spawning a new patrol in. Patrols are now linked to difficulty level.
 Diff 1-3: 1 Patrol with max 5 bodies.
 Diff 4-6: 2 Patrols with max 10 bodies.
 Diff 7-9: 3 Patrols with max 15 bodies.
 Diff 10: 5 Patrols with max 15 bodies.
o We have also taken a look at the breach and bot drops. We have noticed that players away from the group received a disproportionate amount of breach calls and drop bots delivered onto them, despite the larger group being the greater threat. The chance for breach/drop have been adjusted to accommodate this:
 1 Person: 25% chance for a breach.
 2 Person: 45% chance for a breach.
 3 Person: 75% chance for a breach.
 4 Person: 90% chance for a breach.
• We have kept the max chance to 90% in order to avoid having breaches and drops called consistently when the full group is together.
• In later patches we want the Automaton and Terminid forces to accurately gauge the threat level of the players before calling in reinforcements.
o Chargers no longer have access to Tokyo Drift during their teenage days. Chargers performed feats that should not have been capable without wheels. They no longer drift up mountains and should accurately slam into them. Their turning circle, recovery time and general nimbleness have been decreased because of this.

[Oobaneko]

If you do not like it - you are always able to stop playing the game you do not like.

[Supa]

I read ejaculation and was deeply disappointed.

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by Monarch:

Good thing that idea guys is not a employable position

Yeah, god forbid you actually have fun in a game right.

[Squirt Games]

Watch out my friend, bootlickers are likely to stroll in here and tell you to play something else because criticism is not allowed.

[Doug Dimmadong]

The bile titan headshot bug is terrible, that should be something done in a hotfix.

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by Doug Dimmadong:

The bile titan headshot bug is terrible, that should be something done in a hotfix.

Yesterday I had to shoot 4 Recoilless rounds at a Bile Titan to kill it...It was standing still, 4 fricking headshots...Like yay...Realism!!

Originally posted by Monarch:

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Yeah, god forbid you actually have fun in a game right.

I do have fun in the game, more fun than so many before it.

What you seem to be suggesting is powercreep and Payday 2 is a good example of power creep.

What exactly is the powercreep?

You mean a "massive update" by the devs called Escalation of Freedom, so much it warranted a 5minute trailer to showcase, whatever and all the good things to come were just nerfs?

Nah fam, you want release an update that warrants a 5 minute trailer. You better stuff that update full of ♥♥♥♥ that people want, like a free ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ warbond with 10 pages akin to the one that you launched the game with.

You think more samples equal powercreep? Even though majority of people want the entire samplecap to be removed? Or more medals? Because a week of play puts you at 250 anyway and then what?

Or an actual reward for beating the supercolonies/superbases instead of the current *checks notes* 2 super and 4 rare samples...Because yay thats exciting......

Or, instead of "fixing" fire, that NO ONE asked for, aside from Hero Unit but then again, who listens to him about his nerfs aside from AH it seems? They fix the actual ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bugs in the game like Bile Titan ignoring headshot damage. Bots and bugs phasing into solid objects, Bile/Nurse spewer vomit ignoring their buddies and other inconsistent garbage that the devs can't seem to figure out.

Like, at this point they are just taking the piss.

The CEO literally admitted; 30% of people use Incendiary Breaker against bugs, thats too much, so we're going to nerf it. If that is their only reason to nerf something than they simply do not know their own game.

All these threads, all these people complaining, they want the game to be fun, they want the game to succeed. It just seems that the devs don't want that.

[Doug Dimmadong]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Originally posted by Doug Dimmadong:

The bile titan headshot bug is terrible, that should be something done in a hotfix.

Yesterday I had to shoot 4 Recoilless rounds at a Bile Titan to kill it...It was standing still, 4 fricking headshots...Like yay...Realism!!

I literally just played a game where I shot one directly in the face with TWO Spear missiles and it didn't die. I just quit the game right there. That is horrendously game breaking.

[Soul Reaper III]

Originally posted by Doug Dimmadong:

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Yesterday I had to shoot 4 Recoilless rounds at a Bile Titan to kill it...It was standing still, 4 fricking headshots...Like yay...Realism!!

I literally just played a game where I shot one directly in the face with TWO Spear missiles and it didn't die. I just quit the game right there. That is horrendously game breaking.

"Hurr Durr, git gudurr." - You know the drill.

[Chaos]

Nah, that will required AH to actually care AND be competent.

[XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX]

Originally posted by Monarch:

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Yeah, god forbid you actually have fun in a game right.

I do have fun in the game, more fun than so many before it.

What you seem to be suggesting is powercreep and Payday 2 is a good example of power creep.

What powercreep? Are you running out of buzzwords to throw at people?

[XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX]

Originally posted by Monarch:

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Yesterday I had to shoot 4 Recoilless rounds at a Bile Titan to kill it...It was standing still, 4 fricking headshots...Like yay...Realism!!



What exactly is the powercreep?

You mean a "massive update" by the devs called Escalation of Freedom, so much it warranted a 5minute trailer to showcase, whatever and all the good things to come were just nerfs?

Nah fam, you want release an update that warrants a 5 minute trailer. You better stuff that update full of ♥♥♥♥ that people want, like a free ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ warbond with 10 pages akin to the one that you launched the game with.

You think more samples equal powercreep? Even though majority of people want the entire samplecap to be removed? Or more medals? Because a week of play puts you at 250 anyway and then what?

Or an actual reward for beating the supercolonies/superbases instead of the current *checks notes* 2 super and 4 rare samples...Because yay thats exciting......

Or, instead of "fixing" fire, that NO ONE asked for, aside from Hero Unit but then again, who listens to him about his nerfs aside from AH it seems? They fix the actual ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bugs in the game like Bile Titan ignoring headshot damage. Bots and bugs phasing into solid objects, Bile/Nurse spewer vomit ignoring their buddies and other inconsistent garbage that the devs can't seem to figure out.

Like, at this point they are just taking the piss.

The CEO literally admitted; 30% of people use Incendiary Breaker against bugs, thats too much, so we're going to nerf it. If that is their only reason to nerf something than they simply do not know their own game.

All these threads, all these people complaining, they want the game to be fun, they want the game to succeed. It just seems that the devs don't want that.

Gonna keep it real simple.

Instead of nerfing we will just buff everything else. So now that we buffed all the weapons so much, users are now saying that difficulty 10 is a snooze fest.

Ok let’s add difficulty 12 and more variants to make the raiders come with additional armour and flying bile spewers.

Oh damn the additional armour to raiders has made every light pen weapon useless. Ok let’s make all primaries do medium pen.

The flying bile spewers are too awkward to hit reliably, let’s add more stagger to weapons.

We have gone full circle in power creep, repeat adfinum and you get Payday 2s mess of balance when reaching the Death Wish and Death Sentance difficulties.

You think you want lots of buffs, but you don’t.

This is a completely made up slippery slope argument

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by Monarch:

drivel

You have fun on diff 10, I, like many other players, aren't ever going to touch it.

So if you think the balancing should be done for the small % of people that actually do play diff 10, then you're just a waste of time to argue with.

[Squirt Games]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Originally posted by Monarch:

drivel

You have fun on diff 10, I, like many other players, aren't ever going to touch it.

So if you think the balancing should be done for the small % of people that actually do play diff 10, then you're just a waste of time to argue with.

Most players who are arguing in favor of the current balancing philosophy have this mindset, the mindset of "balancing should be done for the small % of people that actually do play diff 10". I would need to be given an earnest convincing to believe otherwise from one of them. They tend to speak from a more personal standpoint and don't really consider what the majority want.

[Knuckle Sandwich]

If you are expecting anything more than a warbond each month, it's on you.
Devs have no idea what to do it seams, so they just do nothing insted.

[Oobaneko]

That was fast.